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> Apple with settings ads Say more?

yurishimo 5y ago
I think they’re referring to the upsell of iCloud. If you’re not subscribed to even the $1 tier or wherever, there is a line under the iCloud menu item to upgrade. I don’t think it’s especially egregious but some might have a different opinion.
- busymom0 5y ago
  It’s worse: https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg
bertman 5y ago
https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/apple-is-putting-ads-iphone-settings-like-android-phones-people-are-talking-about-it-1766969-2021-02-08 https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/apple-is-put...
jen729w 5y ago
I believe they are referring to Apple’s encouragement to sign up to/in to iCloud within the Settings app on iOS, suggesting that this is an ‘ad’ on a par with the Microsoft ad shown in the OP.
- oneplane 5y ago
  Not even close. If you go to iCloud (a tiered service with one free offering and only paid options beyond that), you get product messaging about iCloud. Not "how to write confidently in this other unrelated product that you don't have but you can buy from us".
  - everdrive 5y ago
    It’s not in the same ballpark, and shouldn’t be compared. It is pretty annoying on its own, though.
    - busymom0 5y ago
      The iOS settings app shows a “Apple Arcade for free for 3 months” ad at the very top of the home page. That’s definitely an ad. EDIT: screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg
      - everdrive 5y ago
        I haven’t seen that ad, but I’m also using a Pihole, so maybe it has just been blocked. Agreed, though, advertising is unwelcome.
        busymom0 5y ago
        I don’t think PiHole will block this ad. I think it may only show for new phones or something: https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg
        oneplane 5y ago
        After combining that with your other post, perhaps the formula they are using is iCloud account on a 'difference' device where it calculates if the new device is 'better' than the old one, thus was a device upgrade and therefore you may want to try the arcade. Personally I don't care for the arcade, but it does seem to be some sort of one-off notification when something in your device/account mix changes. Reminds me of the Office365 trial tile in Windows that doesn't actually do anything but when you open the start menu it is always there in accounts that are newly signed in to a computer. It's not really in the way, but it is always in your face until you remove it (but then it does stay away).
      - oneplane 5y ago
        Not showing up for me at any time, perhaps this is that complementary thing you get for new iCloud accounts and new Apple devices? (Or was that the one free year thing?) While it is probably advertising for a service, it's not a generic place for arbitrary advertisements. I believe the difference between "there will be random ads here" and "you bought a thing, this is what you get with it for free if you want it, or you can remove it and never see it again as a normal option" is pretty big.
2fast4you 5y ago
They're probably talking about notifications probing you to add your card to Apple Wallet. I'm not sure if you get them if you never touch Apple Wallet, I always get them when I transfer to a new phone or reset my current phone and need to setup my cards again before they can fully transfer. It's annoying, but never felt it was comparable to Microsoft.
- deleted 5y ago
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- LorenPechtel 5y ago
  Finish setting up your i<device>. It doesn't go away. Nowhere near as evil as what the other guys are doing, though.
  - howinteresting 5y ago
    There are no ads in GNU/Linux distributions.
    - thaumasiotes 5y ago
      Did Ubuntu stop running them?
      - howinteresting 5y ago
        Yes.
tacotacotaco 5y ago
I might guess they are referring to the Apple Pay signup, the Apple TV and Apple Arcade promotions which show up as settings notifications.
oneplane 5y ago
They probably think that the section in the iCloud subscription settings about what the product costs and what it provides is "settings ads".
- busymom0 5y ago
  The iPhone shows “Apple arcade for free for 3 months” ad at the very top of the settings home page. Not iCloud. Here’s how it looks: https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg
  - oneplane 5y ago
    Never had that one, but from the docs you apparently can select it, say you do not want the free thing and it will never come back and also not be replaced with an ad for unrelated products. Edit: until you apparently log in on a new device and if it is new enough you get the same offer.
    - rekoil 5y ago
      > if it is new enough you get the same offer Still only once per account though. If you have a family setup it's actually only once per family even, I'd imagine it reverts back to once per account if you leave the family. So basically, if you don't like seeing it, activate it and then immediately cancel it, and it should never come back.
      - oneplane 5y ago
        Interesting, I haven't checked with the rest of the family, but would that also mean that the trial is family-scoped so that you can't all trial it individually?
        rekoil 5y ago
        Indeed, because it applies to the family.
  - 5y ago
smoldesu 5y ago
I got near-daily ads for Safari on Mojave. Pretty good OS, but that just drove me straight up the wall...
SheinhardtWigCo 5y ago
Apple bends its own rules by using push notifications to promote Apple Music: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/18/18229492/apple-music-push-notifications-advertising https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/18/18229492/apple-music-push... Apple sends push notification advertising Emmy nominations: https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/07/15/apple-sends-unsolicited-push-notification-advertising-emmy-nominations https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/07/15/apple-sends-unsol... Apple caught spamming iPhone 12 owners with free Apple Arcade offers: https://www.idownloadblog.com/2020/10/28/apple-arcade-free-offers-iphone-12-owners/ https://www.idownloadblog.com/2020/10/28/apple-arcade-free-o... Apple is advertising its monthly iPhone installment plan in the Wallet app: https://www.idownloadblog.com/2019/12/16/iphone-financing-wallet-app-ad/ https://www.idownloadblog.com/2019/12/16/iphone-financing-wa...

I think they’re referring to the upsell of iCloud. If you’re not subscribed to even the $1 tier or wherever, there is a line under the iCloud menu item to upgrade. I don’t think it’s especially egregious but some might have a different opinion.

busymom0 5y ago
It’s worse: https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg

bertman 5y ago

https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/apple-is-putting-ads-iphone-settings-like-android-phones-people-are-talking-about-it-1766969-2021-02-08 https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/apple-is-put...

jen729w 5y ago

I believe they are referring to Apple’s encouragement to sign up to/in to iCloud within the Settings app on iOS, suggesting that this is an ‘ad’ on a par with the Microsoft ad shown in the OP.

oneplane 5y ago
Not even close. If you go to iCloud (a tiered service with one free offering and only paid options beyond that), you get product messaging about iCloud. Not "how to write confidently in this other unrelated product that you don't have but you can buy from us".
- everdrive 5y ago
  It’s not in the same ballpark, and shouldn’t be compared. It is pretty annoying on its own, though.
  - busymom0 5y ago
    The iOS settings app shows a “Apple Arcade for free for 3 months” ad at the very top of the home page. That’s definitely an ad. EDIT: screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg
    - everdrive 5y ago
      I haven’t seen that ad, but I’m also using a Pihole, so maybe it has just been blocked. Agreed, though, advertising is unwelcome.
      - busymom0 5y ago
        I don’t think PiHole will block this ad. I think it may only show for new phones or something: https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg
        oneplane 5y ago
        After combining that with your other post, perhaps the formula they are using is iCloud account on a 'difference' device where it calculates if the new device is 'better' than the old one, thus was a device upgrade and therefore you may want to try the arcade. Personally I don't care for the arcade, but it does seem to be some sort of one-off notification when something in your device/account mix changes. Reminds me of the Office365 trial tile in Windows that doesn't actually do anything but when you open the start menu it is always there in accounts that are newly signed in to a computer. It's not really in the way, but it is always in your face until you remove it (but then it does stay away).
    - oneplane 5y ago
      Not showing up for me at any time, perhaps this is that complementary thing you get for new iCloud accounts and new Apple devices? (Or was that the one free year thing?) While it is probably advertising for a service, it's not a generic place for arbitrary advertisements. I believe the difference between "there will be random ads here" and "you bought a thing, this is what you get with it for free if you want it, or you can remove it and never see it again as a normal option" is pretty big.

2fast4you 5y ago

They're probably talking about notifications probing you to add your card to Apple Wallet. I'm not sure if you get them if you never touch Apple Wallet, I always get them when I transfer to a new phone or reset my current phone and need to setup my cards again before they can fully transfer. It's annoying, but never felt it was comparable to Microsoft.

deleted 5y ago
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LorenPechtel 5y ago
Finish setting up your i<device>. It doesn't go away. Nowhere near as evil as what the other guys are doing, though.
- howinteresting 5y ago
  There are no ads in GNU/Linux distributions.
  - thaumasiotes 5y ago
    Did Ubuntu stop running them?
    - howinteresting 5y ago
      Yes.

tacotacotaco 5y ago

I might guess they are referring to the Apple Pay signup, the Apple TV and Apple Arcade promotions which show up as settings notifications.

oneplane 5y ago

They probably think that the section in the iCloud subscription settings about what the product costs and what it provides is "settings ads".

busymom0 5y ago
The iPhone shows “Apple arcade for free for 3 months” ad at the very top of the settings home page. Not iCloud. Here’s how it looks: https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/64sP9yh.jpg
- oneplane 5y ago
  Never had that one, but from the docs you apparently can select it, say you do not want the free thing and it will never come back and also not be replaced with an ad for unrelated products. Edit: until you apparently log in on a new device and if it is new enough you get the same offer.
  - rekoil 5y ago
    > if it is new enough you get the same offer Still only once per account though. If you have a family setup it's actually only once per family even, I'd imagine it reverts back to once per account if you leave the family. So basically, if you don't like seeing it, activate it and then immediately cancel it, and it should never come back.
    - oneplane 5y ago
      Interesting, I haven't checked with the rest of the family, but would that also mean that the trial is family-scoped so that you can't all trial it individually?
      - rekoil 5y ago
        Indeed, because it applies to the family.
- 5y ago

smoldesu 5y ago

I got near-daily ads for Safari on Mojave. Pretty good OS, but that just drove me straight up the wall...

SheinhardtWigCo 5y ago

Apple bends its own rules by using push notifications to promote Apple Music: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/18/18229492/apple-music-push-notifications-advertising https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/18/18229492/apple-music-push... Apple sends push notification advertising Emmy nominations: https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/07/15/apple-sends-unsolicited-push-notification-advertising-emmy-nominations https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/07/15/apple-sends-unsol... Apple caught spamming iPhone 12 owners with free Apple Arcade offers: https://www.idownloadblog.com/2020/10/28/apple-arcade-free-offers-iphone-12-owners/ https://www.idownloadblog.com/2020/10/28/apple-arcade-free-o... Apple is advertising its monthly iPhone installment plan in the Wallet app: https://www.idownloadblog.com/2019/12/16/iphone-financing-wallet-app-ad/ https://www.idownloadblog.com/2019/12/16/iphone-financing-wa...