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If you’re not paying for Windows then you’re not the customer, you’re the product. I can’t imagine Enterprise versions of Windows will have this enabled.

JCWasmx86 5y ago
You pay for Windows, the price is already in the hardware, if you purchase a PC with Windows
- 0des 5y ago
  Is this like when you pay for Hulu but still see ads? Is there a word for this?
  - magicalhippo 5y ago
    I call it lose-lose.
  - bitwize 5y ago
    Two bites at the apple?
  - rabuse 5y ago
    Cable
clhodapp 5y ago
They might get it later but I'm pretty sure they will get it eventually, given that enterprise versions eventually got bloatware like candy crush. I think the classic truism that you are either the customer or the product is outmodded. Companies are normalizing double-dipping and making you a product even when you are paying them.
- asimops 5y ago
  I haven't seen candy crush on any enterprise installation to date. Maybe you are mistaken?
  - clhodapp 5y ago
    I think the partnership that caused them to bundle Candy Crush ended a while ago but I belive that it did trickle out to Pro and finally Enterprise before it wrapped up. It's not the highest quality post but this seems to corroborate my belief: https://whatsabyte.com/windows/windows-10-enterprise-bloatware/ https://whatsabyte.com/windows/windows-10-enterprise-bloatwa...
benbristow 5y ago
> I can’t imagine Enterprise versions of Windows will have this enabled. Free Windows licences through MSDN (if you work at a .NET/Microsoft shop) ftw. Running Enterprise on my personal machine.
- Nextgrid 5y ago
  Isn't it a violation of the license to use it for anything other than testing/evaluation? If I'm going to violate the terms of the license, at least I'm going to do so for free.
  - benbristow 5y ago
    I don't know, and tbh I don't care. Doesn't seem like Microsoft care either.
asimops 5y ago
The only thing I get actively annoyed about in Windows 10 Enterprise is the forced installation of that onedrive crap. You can remove that by making your own image but that is still scummy as hell and not different to bundling Windows media player, for which they got fined. Then there is the telemetry that cannot be disabled entirely, but that's a different level of shit. I mean, they do this with Minecraft too [0]... [0]: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-237493 https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-237493
- asimops 5y ago
  I lied. While reading the rest of the thread, one more thing came to mind: Microsoft grants itself several exceptions in the firewall which are restored even if deleted by the user. Stuff like allow inbound any to cortana...
- phaistra 5y ago
  Windows LTSC does not include the OneDrive garbage. I highly recommend checking it out.

JCWasmx86 5y ago

You pay for Windows, the price is already in the hardware, if you purchase a PC with Windows

0des 5y ago
Is this like when you pay for Hulu but still see ads? Is there a word for this?
- magicalhippo 5y ago
  I call it lose-lose.
- bitwize 5y ago
  Two bites at the apple?
- rabuse 5y ago
  Cable

clhodapp 5y ago

They might get it later but I'm pretty sure they will get it eventually, given that enterprise versions eventually got bloatware like candy crush. I think the classic truism that you are either the customer or the product is outmodded. Companies are normalizing double-dipping and making you a product even when you are paying them.

asimops 5y ago
I haven't seen candy crush on any enterprise installation to date. Maybe you are mistaken?
- clhodapp 5y ago
  I think the partnership that caused them to bundle Candy Crush ended a while ago but I belive that it did trickle out to Pro and finally Enterprise before it wrapped up. It's not the highest quality post but this seems to corroborate my belief: https://whatsabyte.com/windows/windows-10-enterprise-bloatware/ https://whatsabyte.com/windows/windows-10-enterprise-bloatwa...

benbristow 5y ago

> I can’t imagine Enterprise versions of Windows will have this enabled. Free Windows licences through MSDN (if you work at a .NET/Microsoft shop) ftw. Running Enterprise on my personal machine.

Nextgrid 5y ago
Isn't it a violation of the license to use it for anything other than testing/evaluation? If I'm going to violate the terms of the license, at least I'm going to do so for free.
- benbristow 5y ago
  I don't know, and tbh I don't care. Doesn't seem like Microsoft care either.

asimops 5y ago

The only thing I get actively annoyed about in Windows 10 Enterprise is the forced installation of that onedrive crap. You can remove that by making your own image but that is still scummy as hell and not different to bundling Windows media player, for which they got fined. Then there is the telemetry that cannot be disabled entirely, but that's a different level of shit. I mean, they do this with Minecraft too [0]... [0]: https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-237493 https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-237493

asimops 5y ago
I lied. While reading the rest of the thread, one more thing came to mind: Microsoft grants itself several exceptions in the firewall which are restored even if deleted by the user. Stuff like allow inbound any to cortana...
phaistra 5y ago
Windows LTSC does not include the OneDrive garbage. I highly recommend checking it out.