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What exactly is your interest in this war? The way you appeal to emotion and make everything personal, stigmatize others is just as damaging to discourse as so-

by blub 5y ago

What exactly is your interest in this war? The way you appeal to emotion and make everything personal, stigmatize others is just as damaging to discourse as so-called Russian trolls. This is a place for having genuine discussions. If you don’t want that… the rest of the internet is currently a Russian bash-fest. So you’re welcome to partake, but remember that those that splash around in mud get dirty. 600 civilians and 1200 soldiers killed doesn’t satisfy anybody’s definition of genocide. Especially since the average HN user doesn’t know under which conditions those deaths happened. This might yet turn into a genocide, but that seems unlikely. Finally, Russia is an authoritarian state. It is not totalitarian, although it could become so as a consequence of this war.

trhway 5y ago
>make everything personal, stigmatize others is just as damaging to discourse as so-called Russian trolls. you'd be right if it were a typical "culture war". Unfortunately a "culture war" stops being just a "culture" one and the discussion doesn't exist anymore when one side starts to actually kill people based on their ideological viewpoint they had expressed in the "culture war". Since the moment killing starts advancing the supporting viewpoint is materially supporting the killing. >600 civilians and 1200 soldiers killed doesn’t satisfy anybody’s definition of genocide. Only in Mariupol 2200 people have already been killed. Anyway, I already shown that the situation satisfies UN definition of genocide https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30678544 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30678544 . As well as other people shown it too, for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30645290 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30645290 . As you insist on your personal number based definition - i'll repeat the request, just for argument sake, for you to please state the numbers required according to your definition.

by blub 5y ago

trhway 5y ago

>make everything personal, stigmatize others is just as damaging to discourse as so-called Russian trolls. you'd be right if it were a typical "culture war". Unfortunately a "culture war" stops being just a "culture" one and the discussion doesn't exist anymore when one side starts to actually kill people based on their ideological viewpoint they had expressed in the "culture war". Since the moment killing starts advancing the supporting viewpoint is materially supporting the killing. >600 civilians and 1200 soldiers killed doesn’t satisfy anybody’s definition of genocide. Only in Mariupol 2200 people have already been killed. Anyway, I already shown that the situation satisfies UN definition of genocide https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30678544 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30678544 . As well as other people shown it too, for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30645290 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30645290 . As you insist on your personal number based definition - i'll repeat the request, just for argument sake, for you to please state the numbers required according to your definition.