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Short version: Users with enough Karma can flag a post for breaking rules, being blatant propaganda, etc. Enough flags and it drops rapidly in the rankings or

Short version: Users with enough Karma can flag a post for breaking rules, being blatant propaganda, etc. Enough flags and it drops rapidly in the rankings or dies; depends on how many [flagged] hits it gets. Higher karma users can vouch for a flagged post, which is kinda like a reverse flag. [dead] means mods killed it.

eimrine 5y ago
Today before setting the option to "no" I have seen at least one post being both [flagged] and [dead] among just flaggeds and just deads, thats why I asked the question. I have not read the link from previous commenter yet, and your answer still does not answers how a post can have both of sins. But if the answer is there you can not to bother noticing it for me, because I will definitely read it later, because HN's rules is so insightful source of information about community building.
- detaro 5y ago
  Purely from observation, I don't know the actual internals: For submissions: Flagging is also a "score" internally, which also affects ranking. If it gets over a threshold, [flagged] gets shown but you can still comment and interact, if it goes over a further threshold it gets "flagkilled" and is [flagged][dead], at which point you can't comment anymore. What the threshold is depends on the other activity on the submission - if something has no/little comments or votes it'll go immediately to [flagged][dead], if there is interaction it takes more flags and the thresholds move further apart. I believe comments can end up in just [flagged] but not [dead] only if a moderator removes the [dead] flag - at least I think I've only seen it on comments a mod replied to.
dang 5y ago
[dead] does not mean mods killed it. It could be mods, could be software, could be user flags. Mods is the least common reason. minimaxir's page has this: A submission that's flagged to death will have a [flagged] tag. which is true, but I think it misled you a bit. It would be clearer to say: A submission that's flagged to death will have both [flagged] and [dead] tags.
- News-Dog 5y ago
  >[dead] does not mean mods killed it. It could be mods, could be software, could be user flags. Mods is the least common reason. Agreed dang, however even with the fine filtering, non expected events occur, hence the load on the Mod/s to inspect the autokilled, else the [Dead] submissions would be sent to null and not the DataBase.

eimrine 5y ago

Today before setting the option to "no" I have seen at least one post being both [flagged] and [dead] among just flaggeds and just deads, thats why I asked the question. I have not read the link from previous commenter yet, and your answer still does not answers how a post can have both of sins. But if the answer is there you can not to bother noticing it for me, because I will definitely read it later, because HN's rules is so insightful source of information about community building.

detaro 5y ago
Purely from observation, I don't know the actual internals: For submissions: Flagging is also a "score" internally, which also affects ranking. If it gets over a threshold, [flagged] gets shown but you can still comment and interact, if it goes over a further threshold it gets "flagkilled" and is [flagged][dead], at which point you can't comment anymore. What the threshold is depends on the other activity on the submission - if something has no/little comments or votes it'll go immediately to [flagged][dead], if there is interaction it takes more flags and the thresholds move further apart. I believe comments can end up in just [flagged] but not [dead] only if a moderator removes the [dead] flag - at least I think I've only seen it on comments a mod replied to.

dang 5y ago

[dead] does not mean mods killed it. It could be mods, could be software, could be user flags. Mods is the least common reason. minimaxir's page has this: A submission that's flagged to death will have a [flagged] tag. which is true, but I think it misled you a bit. It would be clearer to say: A submission that's flagged to death will have both [flagged] and [dead] tags.

News-Dog 5y ago
>[dead] does not mean mods killed it. It could be mods, could be software, could be user flags. Mods is the least common reason. Agreed dang, however even with the fine filtering, non expected events occur, hence the load on the Mod/s to inspect the autokilled, else the [Dead] submissions would be sent to null and not the DataBase.