1. 'coming up with "I need a loop here I guess"', non-visual 2. "loop" -> "loop block", non-visual (the loop block is a yellow thing with two teeth and says "w

1. 'coming up with "I need a loop here I guess"', non-visual 2. "loop" -> "loop block", non-visual (the loop block is a yellow thing with two teeth and says "while" on it, this is a recall task) 3. Either typing the thing or executing a "find the block and drag it" action. This is the first "visual" task. Sure, maybe if the kid genuinely can't type but can do gross + fine drag tasks than scratch is a winner, but this is not "visual programming". All the work is still not visual.