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Looking at the diff[1], this seems to remove Yandex-, Odnoklassniki-, and Mail.Ru-related bundled bookmarks and extensions (that apparently exist in some build

Looking at the diff[1], this seems to remove Yandex-, Odnoklassniki-, and Mail.Ru-related bundled bookmarks and extensions (that apparently exist in some build configurations?), if this removes the search option as well it does not seem obvious. (The editorialized submission title is obviously against HN guidelines, but it’s unclear what should be done about it if the original page title is purposefully obscure—and it does seem to be, even given what I said above. Wait for independent reporting to use a more straightforward one?..) [1] https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/autoland/rev/a03a9c72d1db https://hg.mozilla.org/integration/autoland/rev/a03a9c72d1db

leosarev 5y ago
Yes, it's does remove search option. See this article (sorry, in Russian) but s-shot is missing yandex https://vc.ru/services/379414-poiskovik-yandeksa-propal-iz-nastroek-brauzera-mozilla-firefox https://vc.ru/services/379414-poiskovik-yandeksa-propal-iz-n...
- mananaysiempre 5y ago
  Not sure it’s the right patch though. (Does a search engine need an extension to support being used for omnibox search? It might.) In any case, the two ultimate sources of the linked report seem to be: Grigory Bakunov[1] (ex-Yandex) observes Yandex has been removed (but e.g. OZON is still there): https://t.me/addmeto/4782 https://t.me/addmeto/4782 (ru, but basically amounts to a screenshot) Mozilla posts a vague note saying the “default search engine” (NB: omnibox default, not just installation default) may change in Firefox 98, no specific engines are named: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-engine-removal https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-engine-removal (en) [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4076123 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4076123
  - fotta 5y ago
    > Does a search engine need an extension to support being used for omnibox search? It might. No, IIRC it just needs to have an appropriate OpenSearch xml file to have support for omnibox. I use a third-party engine that isn't bundled in FF and it works fine in omnibox.
leosarev 5y ago
I understand that editorializing title is bad. How can I make it less editorialized? I'm open for suggestions.
- fredoliveira 5y ago
  Removing the statement in parens would help.
  - ksec 5y ago
    Yes. Firefox removed Yandex Search Option is a fact, what is in the parens is OP's personal opinion. Unfortunately the submission has been flagged already. Not sure why though, I think some users are flagging it.
    - dblohm7 5y ago
      I flagged it because of the editorializing in the title.
  - dang 5y ago
    Ok, I've done that above. Submitted title was "Firefox removed Yandex search option (and used misleading bug name to hide)". Submitters: if you want to say what you think is important about an article, that's fine, but do it by adding a comment to the thread. Then your view will be on a level playing field with everyone else's: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22level%20playing%20field%22%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

leosarev 5y ago

Yes, it's does remove search option. See this article (sorry, in Russian) but s-shot is missing yandex https://vc.ru/services/379414-poiskovik-yandeksa-propal-iz-nastroek-brauzera-mozilla-firefox https://vc.ru/services/379414-poiskovik-yandeksa-propal-iz-n...

mananaysiempre 5y ago
Not sure it’s the right patch though. (Does a search engine need an extension to support being used for omnibox search? It might.) In any case, the two ultimate sources of the linked report seem to be: Grigory Bakunov[1] (ex-Yandex) observes Yandex has been removed (but e.g. OZON is still there): https://t.me/addmeto/4782 https://t.me/addmeto/4782 (ru, but basically amounts to a screenshot) Mozilla posts a vague note saying the “default search engine” (NB: omnibox default, not just installation default) may change in Firefox 98, no specific engines are named: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-engine-removal https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-engine-removal (en) [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4076123 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4076123
- fotta 5y ago
  > Does a search engine need an extension to support being used for omnibox search? It might. No, IIRC it just needs to have an appropriate OpenSearch xml file to have support for omnibox. I use a third-party engine that isn't bundled in FF and it works fine in omnibox.

leosarev 5y ago

I understand that editorializing title is bad. How can I make it less editorialized? I'm open for suggestions.

fredoliveira 5y ago
Removing the statement in parens would help.
- ksec 5y ago
  Yes. Firefox removed Yandex Search Option is a fact, what is in the parens is OP's personal opinion. Unfortunately the submission has been flagged already. Not sure why though, I think some users are flagging it.
  - dblohm7 5y ago
    I flagged it because of the editorializing in the title.
- dang 5y ago
  Ok, I've done that above. Submitted title was "Firefox removed Yandex search option (and used misleading bug name to hide)". Submitters: if you want to say what you think is important about an article, that's fine, but do it by adding a comment to the thread. Then your view will be on a level playing field with everyone else's: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=%22level%20playing%20field%22%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...