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I wonder how usable those new Apple displays will be with PCs or Linux - as they add more and more builtin chips and software. I have an old 27" LED Cinema whi

I wonder how usable those new Apple displays will be with PCs or Linux - as they add more and more builtin chips and software. I have an old 27" LED Cinema which I used with a PC for many many years, and then with Ubuntu native... and now back to the mac on a Mac Mini. I'm ithcing to replace it eventually with its "double pixel density" big brother, which is essentially what this new Studio Display is (exactly double of 2560x1440). Personally I love the glass pane, and I really dislike those "anti glare" bubbly/grainy coatings I've seen on PC displays.

fuzzy2 5y ago
There’s an article[1] on The Verge where an Apple spokesperson talks about this. Apparently, you can use the camera (without Center Stage) and the display. That's it. No 3D audio, no True Tone, no updates. Of course, the PC would need an appropriate USB-C connector with support for 5K resolution. [1]: https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/9/22969789/apple-studio-display-windows-pc-compatibility-camera-5k-thunderbolt https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/9/22969789/apple-studio-disp...
- monitron 5y ago
  Nice, that's good enough for me. Now if only I could find a box with a button on it to switch the monitor between two or three computers, at full resolution, retaining Power Delivery and attached USB devices. I'd buy one right now.
  - kllrnohj 5y ago
    Why not just pick up the LG 5k or any number of 4k displays that are cheaper (and better) then the apple 27" in the case though? This new Studio 27" isn't really a good display on its own. It's an 8 year old panel and is missing a host of modern display upgrades like higher refresh rates, variable refresh rates, HDR, or local dimming
    - holmium 5y ago
      There is only one other monitor on the market with the pixel density and screen size equal to or greater than the Studio 27", eight year old panel or not.[0] If you want high PPI, right now, you get this, or you buy the 16:9, 60Hz 8K 32" Dell monitor and pray you can get the dual DP cables to work with your setup. Unfortunately, Apple no longer sells the LG Ultrafine 5K [1], and no one knows if LG is even going to restock them.[2] So, you'll have to find one used, and you'll have to hope that LG continues to service this incredibly flaky series of monitors when you inevitably run into an issue. On the flip side, if you don't care about the pixel density, you could have bought any of the low res gaming monitors, or 4k 28" monitors, or whatever other ultrawide, low PPI monstrosity the market has coughed up in the past eight years. They've been waiting this long for a reason. You are stuck choosing between those modern features you listed and a >200ppi display. That is the state of the market right now. Until Apple solves this issue and charges you like $3,000 for the privilege later this year.[3] ---------- [0] https://pixensity.com/list/desktop/ https://pixensity.com/list/desktop/ [1] https://www.macrumors.com/2022/03/12/apple-lg-ultrafine-5k-display/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/03/12/apple-lg-ultrafine-5k-d... [2] https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27md5kl-b-5k-uhd-led-monitor https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27md5kl-b-5k-uhd-led-monit... [3] https://www.macrumors.com/2022/03/10/studio-display-pro-launch-in-june/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/03/10/studio-display-pro-laun...
- cruano 5y ago
  I think some of the Nvidia Cards do come with a USB-C port, which should work [1] > We also tried connecting a 4K monitor with a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter, and that worked well - as expected. [1] https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-02-28-psa-the-usb-c-port-on-rtx-graphics-cards-isnt-just-for-vr https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-02-28...
  - howinteresting 5y ago
    The USB-C connector was present with the 20xx series, but was sadly abandoned for the 30xx series.
- sbr464 5y ago
  a usb-c to displayport cable works well/reliably, with full resolution support for the 6k pro display xdr (windows).

fuzzy2 5y ago

There’s an article[1] on The Verge where an Apple spokesperson talks about this. Apparently, you can use the camera (without Center Stage) and the display. That's it. No 3D audio, no True Tone, no updates. Of course, the PC would need an appropriate USB-C connector with support for 5K resolution. [1]: https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/9/22969789/apple-studio-display-windows-pc-compatibility-camera-5k-thunderbolt https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/9/22969789/apple-studio-disp...

monitron 5y ago
Nice, that's good enough for me. Now if only I could find a box with a button on it to switch the monitor between two or three computers, at full resolution, retaining Power Delivery and attached USB devices. I'd buy one right now.
- kllrnohj 5y ago
  Why not just pick up the LG 5k or any number of 4k displays that are cheaper (and better) then the apple 27" in the case though? This new Studio 27" isn't really a good display on its own. It's an 8 year old panel and is missing a host of modern display upgrades like higher refresh rates, variable refresh rates, HDR, or local dimming
  - holmium 5y ago
    There is only one other monitor on the market with the pixel density and screen size equal to or greater than the Studio 27", eight year old panel or not.[0] If you want high PPI, right now, you get this, or you buy the 16:9, 60Hz 8K 32" Dell monitor and pray you can get the dual DP cables to work with your setup. Unfortunately, Apple no longer sells the LG Ultrafine 5K [1], and no one knows if LG is even going to restock them.[2] So, you'll have to find one used, and you'll have to hope that LG continues to service this incredibly flaky series of monitors when you inevitably run into an issue. On the flip side, if you don't care about the pixel density, you could have bought any of the low res gaming monitors, or 4k 28" monitors, or whatever other ultrawide, low PPI monstrosity the market has coughed up in the past eight years. They've been waiting this long for a reason. You are stuck choosing between those modern features you listed and a >200ppi display. That is the state of the market right now. Until Apple solves this issue and charges you like $3,000 for the privilege later this year.[3] ---------- [0] https://pixensity.com/list/desktop/ https://pixensity.com/list/desktop/ [1] https://www.macrumors.com/2022/03/12/apple-lg-ultrafine-5k-display/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/03/12/apple-lg-ultrafine-5k-d... [2] https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27md5kl-b-5k-uhd-led-monitor https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27md5kl-b-5k-uhd-led-monit... [3] https://www.macrumors.com/2022/03/10/studio-display-pro-launch-in-june/ https://www.macrumors.com/2022/03/10/studio-display-pro-laun...
cruano 5y ago
I think some of the Nvidia Cards do come with a USB-C port, which should work [1] > We also tried connecting a 4K monitor with a USB-C to DisplayPort adapter, and that worked well - as expected. [1] https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-02-28-psa-the-usb-c-port-on-rtx-graphics-cards-isnt-just-for-vr https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-02-28...
- howinteresting 5y ago
  The USB-C connector was present with the 20xx series, but was sadly abandoned for the 30xx series.
sbr464 5y ago
a usb-c to displayport cable works well/reliably, with full resolution support for the 6k pro display xdr (windows).