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Lol, you clearly don't live in the U.S. With the exception of Manhattan, and some parts of D.C. and SF, no car = no job.

by tharne 5y ago

sofixa 5y ago
That's why i said that most cities in the US are massive urban design failures. NYC, DC, SF have mostly decent transit, and I'm willing to bet there are more Americans here on HN who live around there than outside of around there. When you add the people from European or Asian or African cities with good transit, i presume we're in the majority.
- tharne 5y ago
  > NYC, DC, SF have mostly decent transit, and I'm willing to bet there are more Americans here on HN who live around there than outside of around there. I'd take that bet. America is a big place and unlike Europe, our population is not concentrated in one or two major cities. There are huge numbers of tech jobs in places most people outside the U.S. have never heard of. Just as a for instance, there are over 15 cities in the U.S. larger than San Francisco, like Houston, TX or Jacksonville, FL. I'm not going to argue about urban design, I agree the U.S. could do much better on that front. But for now, a car is an absolute necessity for the vast majority of Americans, including Americans who work in tech.
blaser-waffle 5y ago
I made it around just fine in Seattle, Vancouver, DC (Tenlytown), and Nashville without a car. Bikes and ubers. Everywhere but Nashville was pretty easy to be a person, and Nashville was a PITA at times but doable.
- jjav 5y ago
  > Bikes and ubers. Ubers are cars, just with an extremely high markup. I had a coworker so proud of not spending money on car. So he commuted on Uber. Over $50/day. That's over $1000/month!
  - tharne 5y ago
    > Ubers are cars, just with an extremely high markup. This should be be on a billboard. You could even take it a step further, ubers are worse than just owning a car. If I drive my car somewhere, I stop driving it when I get there. Ubers on the other hand, have to deadhead between different pickups and drop offs in addition to the mileage racked up during the pickups and drop offs themselves. So folks using uber are contributing more vehicle miles on a per trip basis than folks who are using their own vehicles.

Lol, you clearly don't live in the U.S. With the exception of Manhattan, and some parts of D.C. and SF, no car = no job.

by tharne 5y ago

Lol, you clearly don't live in the U.S. With the exception of Manhattan, and some parts of D.C. and SF, no car = no job.

sofixa 5y ago

That's why i said that most cities in the US are massive urban design failures. NYC, DC, SF have mostly decent transit, and I'm willing to bet there are more Americans here on HN who live around there than outside of around there. When you add the people from European or Asian or African cities with good transit, i presume we're in the majority.

tharne 5y ago
> NYC, DC, SF have mostly decent transit, and I'm willing to bet there are more Americans here on HN who live around there than outside of around there. I'd take that bet. America is a big place and unlike Europe, our population is not concentrated in one or two major cities. There are huge numbers of tech jobs in places most people outside the U.S. have never heard of. Just as a for instance, there are over 15 cities in the U.S. larger than San Francisco, like Houston, TX or Jacksonville, FL. I'm not going to argue about urban design, I agree the U.S. could do much better on that front. But for now, a car is an absolute necessity for the vast majority of Americans, including Americans who work in tech.

blaser-waffle 5y ago

I made it around just fine in Seattle, Vancouver, DC (Tenlytown), and Nashville without a car. Bikes and ubers. Everywhere but Nashville was pretty easy to be a person, and Nashville was a PITA at times but doable.

jjav 5y ago
> Bikes and ubers. Ubers are cars, just with an extremely high markup. I had a coworker so proud of not spending money on car. So he commuted on Uber. Over $50/day. That's over $1000/month!
- tharne 5y ago
  > Ubers are cars, just with an extremely high markup. This should be be on a billboard. You could even take it a step further, ubers are worse than just owning a car. If I drive my car somewhere, I stop driving it when I get there. Ubers on the other hand, have to deadhead between different pickups and drop offs in addition to the mileage racked up during the pickups and drop offs themselves. So folks using uber are contributing more vehicle miles on a per trip basis than folks who are using their own vehicles.