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If someone need to take pain medication in order to get money something is distinctly wrong.

by belorn 5y ago

andrewinardeer 5y ago
Football and other professional sportspersons regularly take pain meds on game days.
- wiseowise 5y ago
  Technically, their point still stands.
- billpg 5y ago
  If that's true, then something is seriously wrong with football.
  - dls2016 5y ago
    Have you heard of CTE?
  - Cthulhu_ 5y ago
    I don't think anyone is arguing against that to be honest.
    - mrguyorama 5y ago
      Hard disagree. There's an entire segment of the population that thinks football is continually being "pussified". Any attempt to make football not turn it's players into broken bodies is seen as ruining the sport. They actively cheer for the bloodsport
      - teddyh 5y ago
        I think that “anyone” should be interpreted as “anyone in this thread”. Of course you can find people arguing against anything being wrong with American football; you can find people arguing there are little gnomes living in their ears. And that’s probably excluding the Lizardman’s Constant.
dls2016 5y ago
A lot of manual labor jobs result in destroying your body. Joints, backs, hearing, etc… it all goes much quicker when you’re lifting all day long and/or in a factory.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  but what about the old adage 'hard time create stong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men' do those people imagine you are stron man when your back gives out at the age of 30?
  - rbanffy 5y ago
    > do those people imagine you are stron man when your back gives out at the age of 30? I'd say the people who benefit the most of someone's back giving out at the age of 30 are very happy that there are plenty of willing people that want to be seen as "strong".
formerly_proven 5y ago
I'm not disagreeing, but then why is this argument limited to sex work? I say this because I've only ever seen it made in discussions about sex work. There are oodles of jobs where people routinely get injured, suffer strain injuries and damage their bodies in various ways, and those are often low-paid jobs with exploitative work relationships as well. Is it because (unlike porn) much of the world is - literally - built on that? Or because it's easier to care about some than others?
- AlecSchueler 5y ago
  There's plenty of discussion about workplace safety in just about every sector where is relevant. The rise of health & safety laws enacted by governments the world over throughout the past century should show you that. We used to have people working with asbestos without any personal protection as one example
  - belorn 5y ago
    This is good. We should have work regulations in place to prevent people from doing work that is harmful to the human body regardless of much a person volunteer to do it (in context of people wanting to get paid). It does mean that labor costs will go up, especially in work places that pay low and require a lot of people doing physical work. It also mean we need to start having a different view about work places injuries. Every injury that occur because of work is a direct failure of either regulation or enforcement of said regulation.
cookieswumchorr 5y ago
think about sports... Although, there's definitely something wrong there
- rbanffy 5y ago
  Oh yes. This is very similar to professional sports.
  - throwmeariver1 5y ago
    The best new example is a phenomen called Porpoising that came as a sideeffect of the new Formula 1 regulations and shift from aero to downforce cars. When a car goes fast on a straight the car starts to violently hop up and down. Instead of trying to fix it by any means of the governing body they just brush it off. "They might need some new fillings after the race or get a check up for concussions." Insane. [0] [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYyGSMwNji4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYyGSMwNji4
throwaway0a5e 5y ago
Destroying one's body laboring in the hope that one will achieve a life where that kind of labor is no longer needed before one's body is unable to continue doing that kind of labor is a task older than history. Women doing porn are just speedrunning it.

If someone need to take pain medication in order to get money something is distinctly wrong.

by belorn 5y ago

If someone need to take pain medication in order to get money something is distinctly wrong.

andrewinardeer 5y ago

Football and other professional sportspersons regularly take pain meds on game days.

wiseowise 5y ago
Technically, their point still stands.
billpg 5y ago
If that's true, then something is seriously wrong with football.
- dls2016 5y ago
  Have you heard of CTE?
- Cthulhu_ 5y ago
  I don't think anyone is arguing against that to be honest.
  - mrguyorama 5y ago
    Hard disagree. There's an entire segment of the population that thinks football is continually being "pussified". Any attempt to make football not turn it's players into broken bodies is seen as ruining the sport. They actively cheer for the bloodsport
    - teddyh 5y ago
      I think that “anyone” should be interpreted as “anyone in this thread”. Of course you can find people arguing against anything being wrong with American football; you can find people arguing there are little gnomes living in their ears. And that’s probably excluding the Lizardman’s Constant.

dls2016 5y ago

A lot of manual labor jobs result in destroying your body. Joints, backs, hearing, etc… it all goes much quicker when you’re lifting all day long and/or in a factory.

ClumsyPilot 5y ago
but what about the old adage 'hard time create stong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men' do those people imagine you are stron man when your back gives out at the age of 30?
- rbanffy 5y ago
  > do those people imagine you are stron man when your back gives out at the age of 30? I'd say the people who benefit the most of someone's back giving out at the age of 30 are very happy that there are plenty of willing people that want to be seen as "strong".

formerly_proven 5y ago

I'm not disagreeing, but then why is this argument limited to sex work? I say this because I've only ever seen it made in discussions about sex work. There are oodles of jobs where people routinely get injured, suffer strain injuries and damage their bodies in various ways, and those are often low-paid jobs with exploitative work relationships as well. Is it because (unlike porn) much of the world is - literally - built on that? Or because it's easier to care about some than others?

AlecSchueler 5y ago
There's plenty of discussion about workplace safety in just about every sector where is relevant. The rise of health & safety laws enacted by governments the world over throughout the past century should show you that. We used to have people working with asbestos without any personal protection as one example
- belorn 5y ago
  This is good. We should have work regulations in place to prevent people from doing work that is harmful to the human body regardless of much a person volunteer to do it (in context of people wanting to get paid). It does mean that labor costs will go up, especially in work places that pay low and require a lot of people doing physical work. It also mean we need to start having a different view about work places injuries. Every injury that occur because of work is a direct failure of either regulation or enforcement of said regulation.

cookieswumchorr 5y ago

think about sports... Although, there's definitely something wrong there

rbanffy 5y ago
Oh yes. This is very similar to professional sports.
- throwmeariver1 5y ago
  The best new example is a phenomen called Porpoising that came as a sideeffect of the new Formula 1 regulations and shift from aero to downforce cars. When a car goes fast on a straight the car starts to violently hop up and down. Instead of trying to fix it by any means of the governing body they just brush it off. "They might need some new fillings after the race or get a check up for concussions." Insane. [0] [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYyGSMwNji4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYyGSMwNji4

throwaway0a5e 5y ago

Destroying one's body laboring in the hope that one will achieve a life where that kind of labor is no longer needed before one's body is unable to continue doing that kind of labor is a task older than history. Women doing porn are just speedrunning it.