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> It explains why porn is mostly made in low income regions like Eastern Europe and South-East Asia. Citation needed. Your claim doesn't match commonly reporte

> It explains why porn is mostly made in low income regions like Eastern Europe and South-East Asia. Citation needed. Your claim doesn't match commonly reported data. --- The global leaders in porn are the U.S, taking a 60 per cent share of global internet pornography, Two thirds of all U.S porn sites are hosted in California with the country hosting a total of 4.2 million domains containing porn. ---

ClumsyPilot 5y ago
"global leaders in porn are the U.S, taking a 60 per cent share " Where something is produced and where the money goes are two totally different questions
cute_boi 5y ago
The porn he is mentioning are toxic porn, not the normal porn, so you can't compare it like this.
- robinsoh 5y ago
  I don't see that conditional made in his claim. I'm asking for data to support his claim, if such data does not exist than it indicates the claim is unlikely to be valid. Would you like to clarify your meaning of "normal porn" and "toxic porn", and what data exists to support your claim?
  - StevePerkins 5y ago
    As with any social or morality based topic, people drift back and forth between wide and narrow scopes. People tend to use the most extreme and narrow scope to establish a point, and then casually shift to create the impression of that point applying to the wider scope. Most of this thread boils down to "partial-birth abortion as an argument against the RU486 abortion pill" level reasoning.
soneil 5y ago
I think you're focussing on the wrong metric. This would be like saying that phones aren't made with slave labour because the companies are in california. There's a disconnect between where the models come from, and where the money goes.
- yakubin 5y ago
  It has been my impression that most actors are American, followed by Russian. I couldn't find any numbers to corroborate that though.
- robinsoh 5y ago
  > I think you're focussing on the wrong metric. I'm focussing on the claim made by OP which is contrary to what is commonly reported (I provided the paste from the news report). He stated "It explains why porn is mostly made in low income regions like Eastern Europe and South-East Asia." Do you believe OP's claim to be accurate? Could you clarify what evidence you used to form that belief?
  - netsharc 5y ago
    Geez, his metric is wonky - "made in $COUNTRY", but your rebuttal doesn't make sense either... you're looking at which country hosts the domain names of porn sites?! Nevertheless, there are a lot of Eastern European porn actresses, and also a lot of videos filmed there, because well, that's where the actresses live! It seems like a combination of bad economies and attractive[1] people - there's presumably less Swedish porn because Swedes can get rich[2] by working a "normal" job, and there's less porn from (exercice for the reader: insert a country here) because the average porn viewer wouldn't find people from there arousing. [1] Attractive for the average porn viewer. [2] Rich in the sense of being able to afford a lifestyle, e.g. brand name stuff and the newest iPhone - an average Swede can probably afford those things with a few months' worth of savings, but an average Romanian would have to save a lot longer.
    - robinsoh 5y ago
      > Geez, his metric is wonky - "made in $COUNTRY", but your rebuttal doesn't make sense either.. I did not attempt a rebuttal. I merely pasted a paragraph from a news article to point out that his claim doesn't seem to match up with what is commonly reported. Is his claim based on data? Or how about your claims? Or are both based on what categories of pornography and porn actresses viewers watch?

ClumsyPilot 5y ago

"global leaders in porn are the U.S, taking a 60 per cent share " Where something is produced and where the money goes are two totally different questions

cute_boi 5y ago

The porn he is mentioning are toxic porn, not the normal porn, so you can't compare it like this.

robinsoh 5y ago
I don't see that conditional made in his claim. I'm asking for data to support his claim, if such data does not exist than it indicates the claim is unlikely to be valid. Would you like to clarify your meaning of "normal porn" and "toxic porn", and what data exists to support your claim?
- StevePerkins 5y ago
  As with any social or morality based topic, people drift back and forth between wide and narrow scopes. People tend to use the most extreme and narrow scope to establish a point, and then casually shift to create the impression of that point applying to the wider scope. Most of this thread boils down to "partial-birth abortion as an argument against the RU486 abortion pill" level reasoning.

soneil 5y ago

I think you're focussing on the wrong metric. This would be like saying that phones aren't made with slave labour because the companies are in california. There's a disconnect between where the models come from, and where the money goes.

yakubin 5y ago
It has been my impression that most actors are American, followed by Russian. I couldn't find any numbers to corroborate that though.
robinsoh 5y ago
> I think you're focussing on the wrong metric. I'm focussing on the claim made by OP which is contrary to what is commonly reported (I provided the paste from the news report). He stated "It explains why porn is mostly made in low income regions like Eastern Europe and South-East Asia." Do you believe OP's claim to be accurate? Could you clarify what evidence you used to form that belief?
- netsharc 5y ago
  Geez, his metric is wonky - "made in $COUNTRY", but your rebuttal doesn't make sense either... you're looking at which country hosts the domain names of porn sites?! Nevertheless, there are a lot of Eastern European porn actresses, and also a lot of videos filmed there, because well, that's where the actresses live! It seems like a combination of bad economies and attractive[1] people - there's presumably less Swedish porn because Swedes can get rich[2] by working a "normal" job, and there's less porn from (exercice for the reader: insert a country here) because the average porn viewer wouldn't find people from there arousing. [1] Attractive for the average porn viewer. [2] Rich in the sense of being able to afford a lifestyle, e.g. brand name stuff and the newest iPhone - an average Swede can probably afford those things with a few months' worth of savings, but an average Romanian would have to save a lot longer.
  - robinsoh 5y ago
    > Geez, his metric is wonky - "made in $COUNTRY", but your rebuttal doesn't make sense either.. I did not attempt a rebuttal. I merely pasted a paragraph from a news article to point out that his claim doesn't seem to match up with what is commonly reported. Is his claim based on data? Or how about your claims? Or are both based on what categories of pornography and porn actresses viewers watch?