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If you consider the cost of healthcare in developed countries, it may be that meat is much more expensive.

unionpivo 5y ago
With exception of USA, individuals cost of healthcare is not that high. I pay several times more for my phone+internet per year than for my healthcare (and I have 2 separate chronic conditions)
- CaptArmchair 5y ago
  > individuals cost of healthcare is not that high What you don't pay for out of pocket, you do pay either in quality of care or through your taxes, one way or the other.
  - jjoonathan 5y ago
    It's definitely possible to win this game compared to the US, because the situation in the US is so bad. We pay double and our health care isn't twice as good, not even close. You have to hustle hard in order to argue that it's even a smidgen better, let alone twice as good, because mostly it's just more expensive.
throwaway3b03 5y ago
You're somehow implying that eating meat is bad for human health, which considering how general a statement it is, is bound to be completely false. Human beings have thrived eating meat for hundreds of thousands of years. And it's a lot harder to completely address all the nutritional requirements on a purely vegetarian diet, but not impossible.
- danuker 5y ago
  We've only lived long enough to suffer from the effects of meat in the past century or two. Here are videos exploring studies about meat, which convinced me. https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/meat/ https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/meat/
  - hoseja 5y ago
    We've hunted large portion of large fauna to extinction. Agricultural society is a way to factory-farm peasants to use in warfare.
    - danuker 5y ago
      How is that actionable? Move to a hunter-gatherer state? How is meat produced, if not agriculture? In any case, agriculture barely employs anyone nowadays, with mechanization and animal factory-farms.
- doliveira 5y ago
  If anything, it's agriculture that's "unnatural". It only came about 10 thousand years ago, and most plants we eat have been vastly altered to fit our tastes.

With exception of USA, individuals cost of healthcare is not that high. I pay several times more for my phone+internet per year than for my healthcare (and I have 2 separate chronic conditions)

CaptArmchair 5y ago
> individuals cost of healthcare is not that high What you don't pay for out of pocket, you do pay either in quality of care or through your taxes, one way or the other.
- jjoonathan 5y ago
  It's definitely possible to win this game compared to the US, because the situation in the US is so bad. We pay double and our health care isn't twice as good, not even close. You have to hustle hard in order to argue that it's even a smidgen better, let alone twice as good, because mostly it's just more expensive.

throwaway3b03 5y ago

You're somehow implying that eating meat is bad for human health, which considering how general a statement it is, is bound to be completely false. Human beings have thrived eating meat for hundreds of thousands of years. And it's a lot harder to completely address all the nutritional requirements on a purely vegetarian diet, but not impossible.

danuker 5y ago
We've only lived long enough to suffer from the effects of meat in the past century or two. Here are videos exploring studies about meat, which convinced me. https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/meat/ https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/meat/
- hoseja 5y ago
  We've hunted large portion of large fauna to extinction. Agricultural society is a way to factory-farm peasants to use in warfare.
  - danuker 5y ago
    How is that actionable? Move to a hunter-gatherer state? How is meat produced, if not agriculture? In any case, agriculture barely employs anyone nowadays, with mechanization and animal factory-farms.
doliveira 5y ago
If anything, it's agriculture that's "unnatural". It only came about 10 thousand years ago, and most plants we eat have been vastly altered to fit our tastes.