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Well... take a look at one of the pilots they shot down. This guy was apparently also flying missions in Syria. If this one guy's physical condition is any in

Well... take a look at one of the pilots they shot down. This guy was apparently also flying missions in Syria. If this one guy's physical condition is any indication of the type of pilots Russia is putting in the field, they are seriously fucked. And before "propaganda", "fake news" etc. There are interviews with him after he was captured, while he's still got that bandage around his neck. It's actually a hilarious interview, basically he says he didn't know what he was doing there, didn't know he was bombing civilians and the Ukranian asks him if he didn't see the cars driving around, or if he thought they were driving themselves like Elon Musk wanted. [1] https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/russian-su-34-shot-down-pilot-captured-and-identified.6709689/ https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/russian-su-34-sho...

wolverine876 5y ago
Where are some interviews with credible sources? Also, this person's life is in the hands of their captors; they will say whatever is most likley to keep them alive, including what their captors tell them to say. Generally, it's illegal to put POWs in that position. I verymuch support Ukrainians, their freedom, and their democratic government, but POW interviews are propaganda.
- laichzeit0 5y ago
  What would even count as a “credible source”? It’s a cellphone video from someone in the warzone, it’s raw footage from the source. Yes I get he could and would say anything, they’re all saying the same shit.
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    > What would even count as a “credible source”? They are indeed hard to find in war, if that's what you mean, but there are good sources - intercepted communications, for example; anonymous interviews with current Russian soldiers; interviews with people they talk to; etc etc > It’s a cellphone video from someone in the warzone, it’s raw footage from the source. Raw footage is less credible. It lacks the fact-checking around it. The NY Times, for example, has put dozens of reporters in Ukraine to corroborate, fact-check, etc. - that's the value of actual journalists compared to some video on the Internet. > they’re all saying the same shit. I have seen that but it could be that Ukrainian messaging is consistent, and spreading messages that enemy morale is low is a very common, basic tactic. However, there seems to be other evidence of low morale. However true it is, I'm glad Ukraine is doing it effectively!

wolverine876 5y ago

Where are some interviews with credible sources? Also, this person's life is in the hands of their captors; they will say whatever is most likley to keep them alive, including what their captors tell them to say. Generally, it's illegal to put POWs in that position. I verymuch support Ukrainians, their freedom, and their democratic government, but POW interviews are propaganda.

laichzeit0 5y ago
What would even count as a “credible source”? It’s a cellphone video from someone in the warzone, it’s raw footage from the source. Yes I get he could and would say anything, they’re all saying the same shit.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  > What would even count as a “credible source”? They are indeed hard to find in war, if that's what you mean, but there are good sources - intercepted communications, for example; anonymous interviews with current Russian soldiers; interviews with people they talk to; etc etc > It’s a cellphone video from someone in the warzone, it’s raw footage from the source. Raw footage is less credible. It lacks the fact-checking around it. The NY Times, for example, has put dozens of reporters in Ukraine to corroborate, fact-check, etc. - that's the value of actual journalists compared to some video on the Internet. > they’re all saying the same shit. I have seen that but it could be that Ukrainian messaging is consistent, and spreading messages that enemy morale is low is a very common, basic tactic. However, there seems to be other evidence of low morale. However true it is, I'm glad Ukraine is doing it effectively!