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Just for anyone outside of the USA reading this, 300k is actually 99th percentile for American developers, regardless of what happens at a select few Bay Area c

Just for anyone outside of the USA reading this, 300k is actually 99th percentile for American developers, regardless of what happens at a select few Bay Area companies. Most Fortune 500 companies do not even have a procedure to pay that much.

p1esk 5y ago
Maybe, but there are a lot of Bay Area companies, and almost all of them are hiring right now. Basically if you’re a good SWE in US you should have no problem getting $300k total comp. Just make sure to warm up your leetcode skills.
- ryandrake 5y ago
  "No problem" in HN parlance usually means "Rare staff+ leadership role at outlier FAANG company." Are there actually non-FAANG companies paying that much to non-leveled employees, without massively broken work cultures (we all know who these places are)? Is anyone willing to name one?
  - 0xy 5y ago
    Verizon, American Express. There's plenty. One of those listed below is even in Arizona. As for the "leveled employees" thing, being at terminal level in any FAANG or similar company isn't exactly rocket science. Do you think these people are working on rocket trajectories all day? Nope, they're copy/pasting protobuf specifications and writing a few test suites. Just like working for Verizon or another non-FAANG. https://www.levels.fyi/offer.html?id=b5f5f5ac-9949-516b-bae1-682284c8a810 https://www.levels.fyi/offer.html?id=b5f5f5ac-9949-516b-bae1... https://www.levels.fyi/offer.html?id=b0d24426-d95b-57c8-a0f8-010a7f2cc38f https://www.levels.fyi/offer.html?id=b0d24426-d95b-57c8-a0f8...
    - freyr 5y ago
      While Verizon may (or may not) have offered one developer $300k, it’s certainly not the norm: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Verizon/salaries/Software-Engineer/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/Verizon/salaries/Software-Eng... It’s not for AmEx either: https://www.levels.fyi/company/American-Express/salaries/Software-Engineer/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/American-Express/salaries/Sof...
    - erosenbe0 5y ago
      False. Even these dubious claims do not suggest that they were comp packages that were offered at hiring (0 years with company). If you refer to these at a hiring negotiation with Verizon or AmEx they will surely pass to the next candidate who will accept 200k or whatever the real maximum is.
      - 0xy 5y ago
        You claimed F500s do not ever pay that much. The fact an ancient prehistoric company like Verizon is paying garden variety senior developers $300k disputes that statement. I didn't even have to fish very far to find those examples. >real maximum Clearly the real maximum isn't the real maximum if $300k offers are possible. In Arizona, no less.
  - p1esk 5y ago
    FAANG currently is in a totally different ball park https://twitter.com/danluu/status/1447997574556880902 https://twitter.com/danluu/status/1447997574556880902 Sure, it might be hard to believe people who are just like me make this much for the same type of work, but just 3 years ago I didn't believe people made as much as I do now (in a small startup).

p1esk 5y ago

Maybe, but there are a lot of Bay Area companies, and almost all of them are hiring right now. Basically if you’re a good SWE in US you should have no problem getting $300k total comp. Just make sure to warm up your leetcode skills.

ryandrake 5y ago
"No problem" in HN parlance usually means "Rare staff+ leadership role at outlier FAANG company." Are there actually non-FAANG companies paying that much to non-leveled employees, without massively broken work cultures (we all know who these places are)? Is anyone willing to name one?
- 0xy 5y ago
  Verizon, American Express. There's plenty. One of those listed below is even in Arizona. As for the "leveled employees" thing, being at terminal level in any FAANG or similar company isn't exactly rocket science. Do you think these people are working on rocket trajectories all day? Nope, they're copy/pasting protobuf specifications and writing a few test suites. Just like working for Verizon or another non-FAANG. https://www.levels.fyi/offer.html?id=b5f5f5ac-9949-516b-bae1-682284c8a810 https://www.levels.fyi/offer.html?id=b5f5f5ac-9949-516b-bae1... https://www.levels.fyi/offer.html?id=b0d24426-d95b-57c8-a0f8-010a7f2cc38f https://www.levels.fyi/offer.html?id=b0d24426-d95b-57c8-a0f8...
  - freyr 5y ago
    While Verizon may (or may not) have offered one developer $300k, it’s certainly not the norm: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Verizon/salaries/Software-Engineer/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/Verizon/salaries/Software-Eng... It’s not for AmEx either: https://www.levels.fyi/company/American-Express/salaries/Software-Engineer/ https://www.levels.fyi/company/American-Express/salaries/Sof...
  - erosenbe0 5y ago
    False. Even these dubious claims do not suggest that they were comp packages that were offered at hiring (0 years with company). If you refer to these at a hiring negotiation with Verizon or AmEx they will surely pass to the next candidate who will accept 200k or whatever the real maximum is.
    - 0xy 5y ago
      You claimed F500s do not ever pay that much. The fact an ancient prehistoric company like Verizon is paying garden variety senior developers $300k disputes that statement. I didn't even have to fish very far to find those examples. >real maximum Clearly the real maximum isn't the real maximum if $300k offers are possible. In Arizona, no less.
- p1esk 5y ago
  FAANG currently is in a totally different ball park https://twitter.com/danluu/status/1447997574556880902 https://twitter.com/danluu/status/1447997574556880902 Sure, it might be hard to believe people who are just like me make this much for the same type of work, but just 3 years ago I didn't believe people made as much as I do now (in a small startup).