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the exponential nature of disease spread. This is how China has largely stayed covid free.

londons_explore 5y ago
I want to know what their future plans are... Do they plan on doing rolling lockdowns forever? Are they hoping to develop a better vaccine that prevents the disease spreading? (As opposed to merely reducing death rates as all existing vaccines do?)
- Mountain_Skies 5y ago
  They might be going for the NZ and AU plan that seemed to be to keep things at bay for as long as possible while the virus hopefully mutates into something less dangerous. Lockdowns can't go on forever but if you can keep them going until falling below a certain threshold of danger from being infected, you might be able to avoid the worst impact of the virus itself. Of course the lockdowns and other measures might end up being worse than what the more dangerous variant of the virus would have done but that's the kind of thing that will debated for decades to come.
ellopoppit 5y ago
>This is how China has largely stayed covid free. Do people actually believe this? If you look at their reported numbers from early on in the pandemic its plainly obvious when they decided to start hard censoring their true numbers. Look at the reported deaths before and after 4/19/20. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/ Note that 4/19/20 was also the same day they were arresting activists who had been reporting on the coverups that had been going on since late 2019. https://qz.com/1846277/china-arrests-users-behind-github-coronavirus-memories-page/amp/ https://qz.com/1846277/china-arrests-users-behind-github-cor...
- kbelder 5y ago
  Frighteningly, the Chinese official numbers are used in studies and analysis of Covid spread, despite them being entirely unreliable.
  - 908B64B197 5y ago
    Look who's financing these studies...
  - fold3 5y ago
    I was in the Netherlands for the first year of the pandemic and the local CDC was very hostile to testing until rather late. I believe good studies take that into account.
- Barrin92 5y ago
  >Do people actually believe this? I was in Beijing for most of 2020 and spring of 2021 so yes as life was normal. I mean I don't doubt the numbers are unreliable or off by 5-10x or something at the beginning of the pandemic but I didn't have a single case at work or my social circle for the entire year of 2020. So at least from the summer on I consider it fairly accurate.

I want to know what their future plans are... Do they plan on doing rolling lockdowns forever? Are they hoping to develop a better vaccine that prevents the disease spreading? (As opposed to merely reducing death rates as all existing vaccines do?)

Mountain_Skies 5y ago
They might be going for the NZ and AU plan that seemed to be to keep things at bay for as long as possible while the virus hopefully mutates into something less dangerous. Lockdowns can't go on forever but if you can keep them going until falling below a certain threshold of danger from being infected, you might be able to avoid the worst impact of the virus itself. Of course the lockdowns and other measures might end up being worse than what the more dangerous variant of the virus would have done but that's the kind of thing that will debated for decades to come.

ellopoppit 5y ago

>This is how China has largely stayed covid free. Do people actually believe this? If you look at their reported numbers from early on in the pandemic its plainly obvious when they decided to start hard censoring their true numbers. Look at the reported deaths before and after 4/19/20. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/ Note that 4/19/20 was also the same day they were arresting activists who had been reporting on the coverups that had been going on since late 2019. https://qz.com/1846277/china-arrests-users-behind-github-coronavirus-memories-page/amp/ https://qz.com/1846277/china-arrests-users-behind-github-cor...

kbelder 5y ago
Frighteningly, the Chinese official numbers are used in studies and analysis of Covid spread, despite them being entirely unreliable.
- 908B64B197 5y ago
  Look who's financing these studies...
- fold3 5y ago
  I was in the Netherlands for the first year of the pandemic and the local CDC was very hostile to testing until rather late. I believe good studies take that into account.
Barrin92 5y ago
>Do people actually believe this? I was in Beijing for most of 2020 and spring of 2021 so yes as life was normal. I mean I don't doubt the numbers are unreliable or off by 5-10x or something at the beginning of the pandemic but I didn't have a single case at work or my social circle for the entire year of 2020. So at least from the summer on I consider it fairly accurate.