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The person responsible for monitoring the cert was the proximal cause but not the ultimate cause. The ultimate cause was the colossal fool who decided a cert ch

The person responsible for monitoring the cert was the proximal cause but not the ultimate cause. The ultimate cause was the colossal fool who decided a cert check failure should cause an immediate and nonconsensual disabling of all extensions instead of a pop-up box warning the user their extensions may be untrustworthy. That's like a car's ECU slamming on brakes because it failed to read the tire pressure.

simondotau 5y ago
My comment was a response to your singling out the "someone at Mozilla forgetting to renew a cert" which you referred to earlier. You are correct in acknowledging that you had only identified a proximal cause in your grandparent post. I agree that the underlying problem is that extensions were disabled without user notification. The correct behaviour is simple enough: if any extension gets disabled for ANY reason other than manually by the user, the browser should lock out ALL network connections until the user has acknowledged this change of state. Someone should submit this to bugzilla as a high priority fix, if it hasn't already been done.
- causality0 5y ago
  Someone should submit this to bugzilla as a high priority fix, if it hasn't already been done. Not gonna happen. These days Mozilla doesn't even pretend to give a damn about user control. "We know better than you" has been the watchword for a while now.
  - simondotau 5y ago
    That's not an argument, that's just emotional guff. Sure, they change the UI around every now and again. But they also maintain a firehose of improvements which keep users in control of things which actually matter, like Firefox's highly configurable enhanced tracking protection. Not gonna happen? If you refuse to partake in the most minimal of engagement with the process, don't complain if you don't like the outcome.
    - causality0 5y ago
      things which actually matter, like Firefox's highly configurable enhanced tracking protection. What's your criteria for things that actually matter? For example, as an adblocking, scriptblocking person, whether or not a company tracks me has no impact on my life whatsoever. What does have an impact on my life is my web browser being half-crippled and my mobile browser being a pile of half-working shit that soft-locks if I open it too quickly after closing it.

simondotau 5y ago

My comment was a response to your singling out the "someone at Mozilla forgetting to renew a cert" which you referred to earlier. You are correct in acknowledging that you had only identified a proximal cause in your grandparent post. I agree that the underlying problem is that extensions were disabled without user notification. The correct behaviour is simple enough: if any extension gets disabled for ANY reason other than manually by the user, the browser should lock out ALL network connections until the user has acknowledged this change of state. Someone should submit this to bugzilla as a high priority fix, if it hasn't already been done.

causality0 5y ago
Someone should submit this to bugzilla as a high priority fix, if it hasn't already been done. Not gonna happen. These days Mozilla doesn't even pretend to give a damn about user control. "We know better than you" has been the watchword for a while now.
- simondotau 5y ago
  That's not an argument, that's just emotional guff. Sure, they change the UI around every now and again. But they also maintain a firehose of improvements which keep users in control of things which actually matter, like Firefox's highly configurable enhanced tracking protection. Not gonna happen? If you refuse to partake in the most minimal of engagement with the process, don't complain if you don't like the outcome.
  - causality0 5y ago
    things which actually matter, like Firefox's highly configurable enhanced tracking protection. What's your criteria for things that actually matter? For example, as an adblocking, scriptblocking person, whether or not a company tracks me has no impact on my life whatsoever. What does have an impact on my life is my web browser being half-crippled and my mobile browser being a pile of half-working shit that soft-locks if I open it too quickly after closing it.