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I understand the impulse to simplify things, but there’s an important question that needs to be addressed before doing so. It is the following: why won’t this

I understand the impulse to simplify things, but there’s an important question that needs to be addressed before doing so. It is the following: why won’t this new, simple protocol accumulate the same complexity as it’s predecessor over time?

cartesius13 5y ago
The Gemini guys actually think about this a lot so they're working to make the protocol the least extensible as possible or not extensible at all. They plan to freeze the spec forever after 1.0
- Gigachad 5y ago
  That doesn't stop anything. There is nothing stopping me from writing up a spec that says "Put an annotation like this in your gemini file and with tools supporting this spec addition, you will see an image embedded". For non compliant browsers you will just see plain text and for new extended browsers you will see an inline image.
  - Pink2DS 5y ago
    I agree that this is possible and that the Gemini project might be futile because of this.
- oofbey 5y ago
  Sounds like they want to guarantee this never actually catches on. Pretty sure they will succeed.
Gigachad 5y ago
Because no one actually uses Gemini other than to write smug posts about how text only is the best.
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tenebrisalietum 5y ago
One thing: a version number is explicitly not supported by the protocol or standard. There is only one Gemini version now and forever.
- Gigachad 5y ago
  There is realistically no version numbers on the modern web. Its a living standard where new features come in whenever. The underlying communications spec is versioned but this has little to do with possible features and only needs to be updated for performance and security.
  - oofbey 5y ago
    That's true for HTML, but not HTTP. HTML is organic - here's your document, good luck making it work. HTTP is clearly versioned with significantly different changing features at each revision.
    - Gigachad 5y ago
      You don't need to touch HTTP to extend features though. Most of what people care about is the HTML/CSS/JS web api which can extend at any time. No user or developer was ever excited about a new version of HTTP which really only helps performance.

cartesius13 5y ago

The Gemini guys actually think about this a lot so they're working to make the protocol the least extensible as possible or not extensible at all. They plan to freeze the spec forever after 1.0

Gigachad 5y ago
That doesn't stop anything. There is nothing stopping me from writing up a spec that says "Put an annotation like this in your gemini file and with tools supporting this spec addition, you will see an image embedded". For non compliant browsers you will just see plain text and for new extended browsers you will see an inline image.
- Pink2DS 5y ago
  I agree that this is possible and that the Gemini project might be futile because of this.
oofbey 5y ago
Sounds like they want to guarantee this never actually catches on. Pretty sure they will succeed.

Gigachad 5y ago

Because no one actually uses Gemini other than to write smug posts about how text only is the best.

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tenebrisalietum 5y ago

One thing: a version number is explicitly not supported by the protocol or standard. There is only one Gemini version now and forever.

Gigachad 5y ago
There is realistically no version numbers on the modern web. Its a living standard where new features come in whenever. The underlying communications spec is versioned but this has little to do with possible features and only needs to be updated for performance and security.
- oofbey 5y ago
  That's true for HTML, but not HTTP. HTML is organic - here's your document, good luck making it work. HTTP is clearly versioned with significantly different changing features at each revision.
  - Gigachad 5y ago
    You don't need to touch HTTP to extend features though. Most of what people care about is the HTML/CSS/JS web api which can extend at any time. No user or developer was ever excited about a new version of HTTP which really only helps performance.