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Ah yes, lay down your arms forever we won’t invade we promise. Says the country that previously promised to never invade when Ukraine gave up its nukes and did

by _kbh_ 5y ago

Ah yes, lay down your arms forever we won’t invade we promise. Says the country that previously promised to never invade when Ukraine gave up its nukes and did it anyway. The promises of the Russian government regarding the security of Ukraine are at best meaningless and at worst actively malicious. The definition of insanity is letting Russia take over parts of whatever country they feel like, based off whatever deluded reasoning they spew. This needs to stop, best way to do that is to cripple the countries ability to fight wars.

ant6n 5y ago
I agree with you but would like to qualify one point: > The definition of insanity is letting Russia take over parts of whatever country they feel like, based off whatever deluded reasoning they spew. To be fair, Krim was actually almost completely Russian. So it’s not some random deluded reasoning, it’s basically the same reasoning that Hitler used to get Austria and the Sudetenland. You know, merge the Russian lands into the empire.
- _kbh_ 5y ago
  It was more a comment on the 'denazification' justification used to go after the rest of Ukraine. But I would also argue that the ethnic makeup of a region doesn't really justify trying to annex it.
- throwaways85989 5y ago
  Aaaand.. lets dig up the history books, how did crimea become this way- and there it is, ethnic cleansing and replacement with russian civilians during the ruling of the ussr. Thats how a lot of the baltic states in the regions got their russian minorities today. Deport the elite, import russians to life in their homes. Hitlers crimes were rolled back, this crimes stayed and lingered and even worse, are the recipe for todays conquests. This is what ukraine can expect, if putin is victorious. Mass deportations and replacements. It is also the "unoffical" reason why the "planted" people their need russia "for protection" against a "genocide". Every accusation a confession.

by _kbh_ 5y ago

ant6n 5y ago

I agree with you but would like to qualify one point: > The definition of insanity is letting Russia take over parts of whatever country they feel like, based off whatever deluded reasoning they spew. To be fair, Krim was actually almost completely Russian. So it’s not some random deluded reasoning, it’s basically the same reasoning that Hitler used to get Austria and the Sudetenland. You know, merge the Russian lands into the empire.

_kbh_ 5y ago
It was more a comment on the 'denazification' justification used to go after the rest of Ukraine. But I would also argue that the ethnic makeup of a region doesn't really justify trying to annex it.
throwaways85989 5y ago
Aaaand.. lets dig up the history books, how did crimea become this way- and there it is, ethnic cleansing and replacement with russian civilians during the ruling of the ussr. Thats how a lot of the baltic states in the regions got their russian minorities today. Deport the elite, import russians to life in their homes. Hitlers crimes were rolled back, this crimes stayed and lingered and even worse, are the recipe for todays conquests. This is what ukraine can expect, if putin is victorious. Mass deportations and replacements. It is also the "unoffical" reason why the "planted" people their need russia "for protection" against a "genocide". Every accusation a confession.