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Not in my experience with Arch on the pine phone. Arch was the only distro where almost everything worked, but I have to do CLI updates. The GUI isn't really

Not in my experience with Arch on the pine phone. Arch was the only distro where almost everything worked, but I have to do CLI updates. The GUI isn't really there yet for all of the basic and necessary administration activities.

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
Okay, perhaps some qualification needed: There are Linux distros, both for mobile and desktop, that can probably be run completely from the GUI. Arch Linux is not one of them, and is vanishingly unlikely to ever be one of them - consider that on desktop, Arch doesn't even install a GUI by default, and this is not considered even remotely a bug.
- OJFord 5y ago
  Arch can be run entirely from GUIs if you want that and so install them. There isn't one 'Arch GUI' no, but there's not really one '<distro> GUI' either, for your choice of value for distro. (At most some more exotic/niche ones might limit what can be easily installed?)
  - yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
    My point is that Arch culturally has an expectation that users will be comfortable with the shell. Perhaps you can run the system from the GUI once it's set up, but you have to get there which means setting the system up starting from a shell.
    - OJFord 5y ago
      Yes, true, sure. Not to disagree with you, but just to say I'm pretty sure Manjaro (which is an Arch-derived distro with a bunch of packages/maybe bit of config chosen for you) can be GUI installed with whatever DE and probably never touch a shell just as well as Ubuntu or whatever. Saying that actually you could achieve the same thing with `arch-install` which is now bundled in Arch's official images, you'd only briefly have to deal with its TUI option-based interactive installation, nothing manual.
cevn 5y ago
The Original poster uses arch + sxmo as the UI. It has a GUI for upgrading packages, altho I rarely use it.

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Not in my experience with Arch on the pine phone. Arch was the only distro where almost everything worked, but I have to do CLI updates. The GUI isn't really

by Enginerrrd 5y ago

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
Okay, perhaps some qualification needed: There are Linux distros, both for mobile and desktop, that can probably be run completely from the GUI. Arch Linux is not one of them, and is vanishingly unlikely to ever be one of them - consider that on desktop, Arch doesn't even install a GUI by default, and this is not considered even remotely a bug.
- OJFord 5y ago
  Arch can be run entirely from GUIs if you want that and so install them. There isn't one 'Arch GUI' no, but there's not really one '<distro> GUI' either, for your choice of value for distro. (At most some more exotic/niche ones might limit what can be easily installed?)
  - yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
    My point is that Arch culturally has an expectation that users will be comfortable with the shell. Perhaps you can run the system from the GUI once it's set up, but you have to get there which means setting the system up starting from a shell.
    - OJFord 5y ago
      Yes, true, sure. Not to disagree with you, but just to say I'm pretty sure Manjaro (which is an Arch-derived distro with a bunch of packages/maybe bit of config chosen for you) can be GUI installed with whatever DE and probably never touch a shell just as well as Ubuntu or whatever. Saying that actually you could achieve the same thing with `arch-install` which is now bundled in Arch's official images, you'd only briefly have to deal with its TUI option-based interactive installation, nothing manual.
cevn 5y ago
The Original poster uses arch + sxmo as the UI. It has a GUI for upgrading packages, altho I rarely use it.