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It's $15 a month here. I don't think I can happily pay $0.50 every day just to be able to keep listening to the news after I push the lock button on my phone.

It's $15 a month here. I don't think I can happily pay $0.50 every day just to be able to keep listening to the news after I push the lock button on my phone. I'd be happy to support youtube if they actually supported their community and content creators, but right now, my opinion on youtube itself is that it's hostile to anyone who needs to use it.

sen 5y ago
> I'd be happy to support youtube if they actually supported their community and content creators YouTube Premium does support creators, 55% of your subscription gets split among the creators you watch. The more you watch a specific creator, the more they get from your subscription. I've seen some creators say they get more from Premium users than from ad-watching users.
- heavyset_go 5y ago
  Google keeping 45% of subscription revenue is even worse than the 15% to 30% of app subscription revenue they keep. For reference, Bandcamp pays creators 85% to 90% of the revenue they generate.
  - sumedh 5y ago
    I am guessing Youtube's bandwidth cost will be higher compared to Bandcamp but that probably does not justify keeping 45% of the revenue.
  - Drew_ 5y ago
    YouTube Premium offers a number of features on top of ad-free viewing including access to an entire music streaming service. It's actually a marvel that only 45% covers this.
- spartanatreyu 5y ago
  They could give 100% of their subscriptions to content creators and I still wouldn't call youtube a supporting environment. Examples of youtube's hostility include removing dislikes to please ad companies under the guise of user safety, terrible account recovery processes and allowing copyright bots to shutdown channels by spamming claims because youtube has placed the onus of proof on copyright creators, and not the ones actually making the claims.
old_man_jenkins 5y ago
While YouTube still keeps a lot of your money when you pay for premium, you actually contribute more towards a creator if you watch with premium rather than ads[0]. [0] https://youtu.be/-zt57TWkTF4?t=408 https://youtu.be/-zt57TWkTF4?t=408 (Timestamp 6:50)
monetus 5y ago
VLC fills that need for me. Paste the YouTube URL into vlc and stream as audio, then turn off your screen. It even chromecasts.
joshstrange 5y ago
I watch very little YouTube, probably <1h/mo on average but I continue to pay their $15 just so I don't have to see an ad. On desktop I can adblock but on mobile it sucks. I hate casting video (Chromecast) at a friends house and having to see an ad. For that alone I'll pay their stupid fee.

sen 5y ago

> I'd be happy to support youtube if they actually supported their community and content creators YouTube Premium does support creators, 55% of your subscription gets split among the creators you watch. The more you watch a specific creator, the more they get from your subscription. I've seen some creators say they get more from Premium users than from ad-watching users.

heavyset_go 5y ago
Google keeping 45% of subscription revenue is even worse than the 15% to 30% of app subscription revenue they keep. For reference, Bandcamp pays creators 85% to 90% of the revenue they generate.
- sumedh 5y ago
  I am guessing Youtube's bandwidth cost will be higher compared to Bandcamp but that probably does not justify keeping 45% of the revenue.
- Drew_ 5y ago
  YouTube Premium offers a number of features on top of ad-free viewing including access to an entire music streaming service. It's actually a marvel that only 45% covers this.
spartanatreyu 5y ago
They could give 100% of their subscriptions to content creators and I still wouldn't call youtube a supporting environment. Examples of youtube's hostility include removing dislikes to please ad companies under the guise of user safety, terrible account recovery processes and allowing copyright bots to shutdown channels by spamming claims because youtube has placed the onus of proof on copyright creators, and not the ones actually making the claims.

old_man_jenkins 5y ago

While YouTube still keeps a lot of your money when you pay for premium, you actually contribute more towards a creator if you watch with premium rather than ads[0]. [0] https://youtu.be/-zt57TWkTF4?t=408 https://youtu.be/-zt57TWkTF4?t=408 (Timestamp 6:50)

monetus 5y ago

VLC fills that need for me. Paste the YouTube URL into vlc and stream as audio, then turn off your screen. It even chromecasts.

joshstrange 5y ago

I watch very little YouTube, probably <1h/mo on average but I continue to pay their $15 just so I don't have to see an ad. On desktop I can adblock but on mobile it sucks. I hate casting video (Chromecast) at a friends house and having to see an ad. For that alone I'll pay their stupid fee.