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> What's user hostile in taking words off the list? That's like asking what's subscriber hostile about netflix taking movies off their service. Certainly limit

by qiskit 5y ago

> What's user hostile in taking words off the list? That's like asking what's subscriber hostile about netflix taking movies off their service. Certainly limiting choice affects user experience. > Adding trackers is the expected move, when going from a hobby site to a publisher. Except that the NYT loves to attack social media about their trackers. Not only does the NYT track their users, they also charge them a fee for the privilege of being tracked. > This is something which has to be fixed systematically by proper legislation. NYT deliberately chose to track their users and sink to the level of facebook, google, twitter, etc. Always shocked that there are NYT defenders. I'm also shocked people waste their lives on facebook, twitter, etc also. To be fair, I guess they'd shocked by how I waste time.

Barrin92 5y ago
>That's like asking what's subscriber hostile about netflix taking movies off their service. Certainly limiting choice affects user experience. This might be a candidate for worst analogy of the month. Removing words is part of the game design, the words aren't 'content'. The NYT removed words with foreign roots you might not expect ("pupal" / "agora") in an English language game, as well as several insults which players may also not expect to be in a game without an age rating ("whore" / "pussy" etc.)
- Ansil849 5y ago
  > The NYT removed words with foreign roots you might not expect ("pupal" / "agora") in an English language game If the NYT were to remove words with foreign roots, there would be a lot more words removed than just 19. So no, that's not an adequate explanation. > several insults which players may also not expect to be in a game without an age rating Did you know that words have multiple meanings? But not even that, but that their standards meanings may not even be insulting at all? Like the word 'bitch'. And then there are words like "slave", which are not insults.
  - Barrin92 5y ago
    They have removed a lot more. You can try plenty of loan words from other languages that aren't available. The basis for the original game was 'Collins Scrabble Words 19' which omits words as well. And it may shock you but I do indeed know that words have multiple meanings. However I'm not really sure what's so hard to understand about the fact that the NYT is going to remove most controversial ones from a word game.
    - Ansil849 5y ago
      > However I'm not really sure what's so hard to understand about the fact that the NYT is going to remove most controversial ones from a word game. The most controversial words were not removed from the game. Unless you think "slave" and "bitch" (which were both removed) are more controversial than "cunts" or "fucks", which are both in the current NYT Wordle wordbank. This has been pointed out in multiple news articles, just in case the censors reading over the word lists in the first place somehow missed them (and yet didn't miss 'agora'), so it's an open question as to why 'cunts' is OK but 'slave' or 'agora' or 'wench' are not.
- qiskit 5y ago
  > the words aren't 'content'. The words are content. How can you say it isn't content, when the words are what you are trying to guess? Otherwise, why would you be so supportive of censoring them? > The NYT removed words with foreign roots you might not expect ("pupal" / "agora") in an English language game Most of the words in the english language have foreign roots. And pupal and agora are words most semi-educated people would know. This justification is worse than my bad analogy. > as well as several insults which players may also not expect to be in a game without an age rating ("whore" / "pussy" etc.) How is "whore or pussy" an insult when used in a game? Calling someone that would make it an insult. Otherwise, it is just a word. "oh won't you think of the children" isn't a valid argument and using children to push a political agenda has got to stop. I played scrabble as a kid and whore and pussy are in the scrabble dictionary. So is dick in case you were wondering.

by qiskit 5y ago

Barrin92 5y ago

>That's like asking what's subscriber hostile about netflix taking movies off their service. Certainly limiting choice affects user experience. This might be a candidate for worst analogy of the month. Removing words is part of the game design, the words aren't 'content'. The NYT removed words with foreign roots you might not expect ("pupal" / "agora") in an English language game, as well as several insults which players may also not expect to be in a game without an age rating ("whore" / "pussy" etc.)

Ansil849 5y ago
> The NYT removed words with foreign roots you might not expect ("pupal" / "agora") in an English language game If the NYT were to remove words with foreign roots, there would be a lot more words removed than just 19. So no, that's not an adequate explanation. > several insults which players may also not expect to be in a game without an age rating Did you know that words have multiple meanings? But not even that, but that their standards meanings may not even be insulting at all? Like the word 'bitch'. And then there are words like "slave", which are not insults.
- Barrin92 5y ago
  They have removed a lot more. You can try plenty of loan words from other languages that aren't available. The basis for the original game was 'Collins Scrabble Words 19' which omits words as well. And it may shock you but I do indeed know that words have multiple meanings. However I'm not really sure what's so hard to understand about the fact that the NYT is going to remove most controversial ones from a word game.
  - Ansil849 5y ago
    > However I'm not really sure what's so hard to understand about the fact that the NYT is going to remove most controversial ones from a word game. The most controversial words were not removed from the game. Unless you think "slave" and "bitch" (which were both removed) are more controversial than "cunts" or "fucks", which are both in the current NYT Wordle wordbank. This has been pointed out in multiple news articles, just in case the censors reading over the word lists in the first place somehow missed them (and yet didn't miss 'agora'), so it's an open question as to why 'cunts' is OK but 'slave' or 'agora' or 'wench' are not.
qiskit 5y ago
> the words aren't 'content'. The words are content. How can you say it isn't content, when the words are what you are trying to guess? Otherwise, why would you be so supportive of censoring them? > The NYT removed words with foreign roots you might not expect ("pupal" / "agora") in an English language game Most of the words in the english language have foreign roots. And pupal and agora are words most semi-educated people would know. This justification is worse than my bad analogy. > as well as several insults which players may also not expect to be in a game without an age rating ("whore" / "pussy" etc.) How is "whore or pussy" an insult when used in a game? Calling someone that would make it an insult. Otherwise, it is just a word. "oh won't you think of the children" isn't a valid argument and using children to push a political agenda has got to stop. I played scrabble as a kid and whore and pussy are in the scrabble dictionary. So is dick in case you were wondering.