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I also pay for Youtube Music/YT, but I exclusively use Vanced on my phone, as it integrates with Sponsorblock, locks in a set quality setting (unlike the actual

by rahidz 5y ago

I also pay for Youtube Music/YT, but I exclusively use Vanced on my phone, as it integrates with Sponsorblock, locks in a set quality setting (unlike the actual YT app which keeps kicking me to 480p when it feels like it), removes a lot of the cruft on the home page, and as of recently shows downvotes.

eins1234 5y ago
Wow, how did I just find out about Sponsorblock? That makes this news even sadder. :(
- MMS21 5y ago
  SponsorBlock is it’s own thing separate of Vanced. https://sponsor.ajay.app/ https://sponsor.ajay.app/
  - eins1234 5y ago
    Yep, I know. I was just lamenting the loss of the ability to use it in Vanced. Maybe I'll try the Youtube mobile website + Firefox.
    - btdmaster 5y ago
      See also Piped: https://piped.kavin.rocks/preferences https://piped.kavin.rocks/preferences
- dspillett 5y ago
  I draw the line before sponserblock. At that point you are taking money directly from the content creators, not YT or other platforms. I held out on blocking ads for some time, until it became impractical to avoid drive-by attacks other ways and the amount of stalking involved got _really_ creepy. If sponsor segments irritate me enough that I'd consider sponsorblock then I choose between paying for the content directly (if a sponsor-free version is available that way) or just not consuming it (at least not from that source).
  - Zircom 5y ago
    Sponsorblock looks pretty harmless as far as affecting creators getting paid, it doesn't seem to do anything that can't be replicated by hitting your right arrow key a couple times so weird place to draw the line in my opinion. Pretty sure sponsors can't tell if people fast forwarded through the sponsored section.
    - TeeTwoLee 5y ago
      YouTube allows you to see the view drop-off at every second, so the creator of the video can see people skipping the sponsor section. I’m guessing that sponsors probably look at click through or view count. I believe sponsors that care about views will ask to see this chart in the future if they don’t ask for it now.
  - Underphil 5y ago
    How is that taking money from the creators? They still get paid, and I don't have to watch a presentation about some garbage I'll never buy.
    - dspillett 5y ago
      > How is that taking money from the creators? Long term if no one buys the sponsorships will fall off. > I'll never buy Of course if you know with absolutely 100% certainty that you'll never buy or mention to others (you might not need/want a WidgitotronAsAService, but maybe someone you know asks about them later) anything ever mentioned in a sponsor spot, then no there is no loss (and I envy your clairvoyance). I consider it a politeness to the content creators to not automatically skip the sponsor slots. I do manually ship the ones I've heard a few times already, but you never know if the next one might have some relevance. Unlike stalky ads, the sponsor slots have some chance of being relevant to what I'm thinking about while watching that particular clip.
      - znowcone 5y ago
        I understand what you're trying to say but after watching the 972658th Raid Shadow Legends ad I just mash the right arrow as soon as I sense a segue to some sponsor because the chance that there's a good product behind a YT ad is around .3% and that's just not worth my time or attention

by rahidz 5y ago

eins1234 5y ago

Wow, how did I just find out about Sponsorblock? That makes this news even sadder. :(

MMS21 5y ago
SponsorBlock is it’s own thing separate of Vanced. https://sponsor.ajay.app/ https://sponsor.ajay.app/
- eins1234 5y ago
  Yep, I know. I was just lamenting the loss of the ability to use it in Vanced. Maybe I'll try the Youtube mobile website + Firefox.
  - btdmaster 5y ago
    See also Piped: https://piped.kavin.rocks/preferences https://piped.kavin.rocks/preferences
dspillett 5y ago
I draw the line before sponserblock. At that point you are taking money directly from the content creators, not YT or other platforms. I held out on blocking ads for some time, until it became impractical to avoid drive-by attacks other ways and the amount of stalking involved got _really_ creepy. If sponsor segments irritate me enough that I'd consider sponsorblock then I choose between paying for the content directly (if a sponsor-free version is available that way) or just not consuming it (at least not from that source).
- Zircom 5y ago
  Sponsorblock looks pretty harmless as far as affecting creators getting paid, it doesn't seem to do anything that can't be replicated by hitting your right arrow key a couple times so weird place to draw the line in my opinion. Pretty sure sponsors can't tell if people fast forwarded through the sponsored section.
  - TeeTwoLee 5y ago
    YouTube allows you to see the view drop-off at every second, so the creator of the video can see people skipping the sponsor section. I’m guessing that sponsors probably look at click through or view count. I believe sponsors that care about views will ask to see this chart in the future if they don’t ask for it now.
- Underphil 5y ago
  How is that taking money from the creators? They still get paid, and I don't have to watch a presentation about some garbage I'll never buy.
  - dspillett 5y ago
    > How is that taking money from the creators? Long term if no one buys the sponsorships will fall off. > I'll never buy Of course if you know with absolutely 100% certainty that you'll never buy or mention to others (you might not need/want a WidgitotronAsAService, but maybe someone you know asks about them later) anything ever mentioned in a sponsor spot, then no there is no loss (and I envy your clairvoyance). I consider it a politeness to the content creators to not automatically skip the sponsor slots. I do manually ship the ones I've heard a few times already, but you never know if the next one might have some relevance. Unlike stalky ads, the sponsor slots have some chance of being relevant to what I'm thinking about while watching that particular clip.
    - znowcone 5y ago
      I understand what you're trying to say but after watching the 972658th Raid Shadow Legends ad I just mash the right arrow as soon as I sense a segue to some sponsor because the chance that there's a good product behind a YT ad is around .3% and that's just not worth my time or attention