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Honestly, who cares? Unlike other ads, it's not invading my privacy and it's not really in my way. They're not tracking me or selling my data or doing anythin

Honestly, who cares? Unlike other ads, it's not invading my privacy and it's not really in my way. They're not tracking me or selling my data or doing anything creepy. Firefox continues to be the ONLY major browser run by a non-profit, and the ONLY major browser not a shim over chromium. It's still a great product. If this is what they have to do to keep the lights on, then cool, whatever. How many of y'all who use Firefox donate or buy their VPN anyways.

Doctor_Fegg 5y ago
Safari is not a shim over Chromium.
- spencerflem 5y ago
  ok, you're right, not on mac so I forgot about that one :p It's better than Chrome, by a lot, but I'd trust Mozilla over Apple any day.
naoqj 5y ago
I don't want Mozilla to let Disney use my personal computer as a billboard.
- millzlane 5y ago
  I clicked the ad to support Mozilla.
- spencerflem 5y ago
  I mean, it's a little tacky, but holy hell, I don't get why hackernews seems so up in arms about everything Mozilla tries to do. They don't want to be purely funded by Google's whims. Them being independent would, if anything, be better for their real mission of being privacy focused.
  - krapp 5y ago
    > I don't get why hackernews seems so up in arms about everything Mozilla tries to do Because they "gave in to cancel culture" WRT Brendan Eich and his political views. That's at least 90% of it.
    - spencerflem 5y ago
      Yeah, I can't read any of the comments on political posts on HN anymore :( Sucks that (if these comments are real and representative) people really care more about that than their fundamental right to privacy.
  - _-david-_ 5y ago
    > I don't get why hackernews seems so up in arms about everything Mozilla tries to do. Probably because there is a simple answer which will help, if not eliminate a large chunk of their financial issues which is accept donations for Firefox.
dosenbrot 5y ago
Precisely. Firefox is the only real opponent to Chrome (and Google is evil) and have just a few percent market share. So whats the matter, Mozilla needs money to develop Firefox and as long nobody wants to pay for, it has to be an ad from time to time. Also I don't think this ad is intrusive or anything. I would't like it if they sell my browsing history without my consent to make money, this would be newsworthy. By the way, is it possible that Linux users are treated different? Since I didn't notice this "ad" at all, and as example DRM is under Linux disabled by default, the kb-article is a different one for Windows and Linux: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm#firefox:linux:fx91 https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm#firefox:linu...
- perihelions 5y ago
  - "By the way, is it possible that Linux users are treated different?" I saw it on Linux; we weren't spared. However, I think the ad was region-locked to North America. (Also I can confirm Widevine DRM was disabled, so that's not a targeting variable).
newscracker 5y ago
Like you, I don’t really care about this particular ad. I’d rather have Firefox make some money to fund itself. > How many of y'all who use Firefox donate or buy their VPN anyways. A couple of caveats to note. Donating on the Mozilla site funds Mozilla Foundation, which is the non-profit, and is not the same as Mozilla Corporation (which is the maker of Firefox). AFAIK, the donations to Mozilla Foundation cannot be used to fund Firefox developers/development (at least not directly). As for Mozilla VPN, it’s available only in a few countries. If MoCo (Mozilla Corporation) would just sell Firefox themes or digital stickers, I’d gladly buy those to support it (anything that’s legal and allows it to take money from people). Being on the outside, I haven’t understand why Mozilla isn’t looking at and exploiting as many revenue streams as possible to reduce the dependence on the massive search engine relationship with Google.

Doctor_Fegg 5y ago

Safari is not a shim over Chromium.

spencerflem 5y ago
ok, you're right, not on mac so I forgot about that one :p It's better than Chrome, by a lot, but I'd trust Mozilla over Apple any day.

naoqj 5y ago

I don't want Mozilla to let Disney use my personal computer as a billboard.

millzlane 5y ago
I clicked the ad to support Mozilla.
spencerflem 5y ago
I mean, it's a little tacky, but holy hell, I don't get why hackernews seems so up in arms about everything Mozilla tries to do. They don't want to be purely funded by Google's whims. Them being independent would, if anything, be better for their real mission of being privacy focused.
- krapp 5y ago
  > I don't get why hackernews seems so up in arms about everything Mozilla tries to do Because they "gave in to cancel culture" WRT Brendan Eich and his political views. That's at least 90% of it.
  - spencerflem 5y ago
    Yeah, I can't read any of the comments on political posts on HN anymore :( Sucks that (if these comments are real and representative) people really care more about that than their fundamental right to privacy.
- _-david-_ 5y ago
  > I don't get why hackernews seems so up in arms about everything Mozilla tries to do. Probably because there is a simple answer which will help, if not eliminate a large chunk of their financial issues which is accept donations for Firefox.

dosenbrot 5y ago

Precisely. Firefox is the only real opponent to Chrome (and Google is evil) and have just a few percent market share. So whats the matter, Mozilla needs money to develop Firefox and as long nobody wants to pay for, it has to be an ad from time to time. Also I don't think this ad is intrusive or anything. I would't like it if they sell my browsing history without my consent to make money, this would be newsworthy. By the way, is it possible that Linux users are treated different? Since I didn't notice this "ad" at all, and as example DRM is under Linux disabled by default, the kb-article is a different one for Windows and Linux: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm#firefox:linux:fx91 https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/enable-drm#firefox:linu...

perihelions 5y ago
- "By the way, is it possible that Linux users are treated different?" I saw it on Linux; we weren't spared. However, I think the ad was region-locked to North America. (Also I can confirm Widevine DRM was disabled, so that's not a targeting variable).

newscracker 5y ago

Like you, I don’t really care about this particular ad. I’d rather have Firefox make some money to fund itself. > How many of y'all who use Firefox donate or buy their VPN anyways. A couple of caveats to note. Donating on the Mozilla site funds Mozilla Foundation, which is the non-profit, and is not the same as Mozilla Corporation (which is the maker of Firefox). AFAIK, the donations to Mozilla Foundation cannot be used to fund Firefox developers/development (at least not directly). As for Mozilla VPN, it’s available only in a few countries. If MoCo (Mozilla Corporation) would just sell Firefox themes or digital stickers, I’d gladly buy those to support it (anything that’s legal and allows it to take money from people). Being on the outside, I haven’t understand why Mozilla isn’t looking at and exploiting as many revenue streams as possible to reduce the dependence on the massive search engine relationship with Google.