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Here it is: https://web.archive.org/web/20220308222503/https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/98.0/whatsnew/?oldversion=97.0.1 https://web.archive.org/web/202203

Here it is: https://web.archive.org/web/20220308222503/https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/98.0/whatsnew/?oldversion=97.0.1 https://web.archive.org/web/20220308222503/https://www.mozil... Those values are insane. “Chinese culture love”!??? What the actual fuck. This is infuriating. Billionaires of SV please fund a Philanthropic project for a web browser. Like Jeff Bezos funding Washington Post, we desperately need a window into the internet. The days are numbered.

daemoens 5y ago
The chinese culture love part isn't that crazy. It sounds so generic too, like it had to have a certain number of bullet points.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  It’s just weird. Imagine if they had plastered “American culture love”.
  - idiotsecant 5y ago
    Yes, it would be strange because it's basically the default unspoken position.
  - Barrin92 5y ago
    yes, just imagine if there was an entire movie franchise about a patriotic American super soldier dressed in an American flag motif, that'd be crazy right?!
  - throaway425119 5y ago
    Curious why you singled out that bit and not "Canada/Toronto love"? Turning Red is the first Pixar film solo-directed by a Chinese-Canadian woman Domee Shi (who also made the Academy Award winning Bao short). The film was inspired by her childhood in Toronto, hence the many Canadian references, and is told from a culturally and gender specific lens. It's a 2nd generation immigrant story. Remember, there are tons of Chinese people out there who have little or nothing to do with the authoritarian Chinese state. I should know. I'm one of them. This knee-jerk bias against anything Chinese is xenophobic and racist.
    - systemvoltage 5y ago
      I could have but I noticed that Disney has been kowtowing to CCP since HK protests. So I see a clear link. I am gonna push back on you for this absolutely baseless accusation of racism. This seems to be a pattern to gain moral superiority over others. Find ways to accuse others of racism/bigotry, what have you. Little do you know, I've lived in Chengdu for 6 months and still have many friends. So kindly go f yourself.
      - throaway425119 5y ago
        Living in China doesn't absolve you from holding what is absolutely a racist/xenophobic line of thinking. I don't say you are xenophobic, but your utterances absolutely are. This is not some attempt on my part to gain any kind of moral superiority but to speak out against what is clearly a baseless insinuation, associating a Pixar film made by a Chinese Canadian director with the CCP when there is no clear link. Asian Americans are currently targeted with verbal and physical violence because of pervasive undifferentiated narratives the likes of which you espouse.
        systemvoltage 5y ago
        I am apalled. Not sure what to tell you as a person of Asian origin myself. I hope you find peace.
        throaway425119 5y ago
        I am equally appalled. Your origin is immaterial. Before you insinuate anything in the future, step back and think -- is this true? Did I bother to investigate further? You made insinuations based on vague associations and no evidence at all. Insinuations are deadly because you don't even have to worry about something being true or not because once you've planted an idea, it's there. Comments like yours create seeds for narratives that get planted and reinforced. You might not care, but many of us have to live with those narratives thrust upon us.
idiotsecant 5y ago
Liking elements of Chinese culture is fine. It's one of the longer continuous cultures left on earth, there's quite a lot of material there. If you can't find anything to love it's probably not a problem with Chinese culture. You can enjoy the mythology of another group without automatically being enthralled by their government, relax.
- systemvoltage 5y ago
  Telling someone to relax in any argument is pretty condescending. My guess is that this is due to Disney’s questionable relationship with Chinese Communist Party.
  - throaway425119 5y ago
    Oh if you only you would step back and investigate for a second what the story is about instead of jumping to such a knee-jerk conclusion....
- pizza 5y ago
  Come on - this is pure cynicism on Mozilla's part. We're not seeing this because Mozilla is trying to increase cultural understanding (cross cultural understanding is something I wholeheartedly support) - we're seeing this because Mozilla wants to make money by grabbing their users' attention for free and selling it for money. It's not even opt-in, it's opt-out. We're not Mozilla's customer any more at this point, the customer is the one buying the ad space. Gives a new meaning to "Just Browsing" the web when your browser itself is becoming more and more like a mall.
- moltke 5y ago
  The implication here is that if you don't agree with them you're either ignorant or racist which isn't great.
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woodruffw 5y ago
It's very clearly lighthearted, unless you think that "Boy bands" and "General disdain of dodgeball" are overriding, all-consuming values of the Mozilla Foundation.
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lurker616 5y ago
Taken out of context, it seems weird. But not so weird when you see this movie is trying to increase representation of asian americans in film. The protagonist is a canadian-chinese girl growing up in canada. It's meant to celebrate diverse cultures of immigrants and improve the self-image of people not represented by hollywood.
- brnaftr361 5y ago
  How much money would you bet that the vast majority of the staff that contributed to the core of the movie are not asian? I'd bet a lot.
  - jeromegv 5y ago
    Good thing you didn’t bet because you’d have lost a lot.
  - Barrin92 5y ago
    You'd lose a lot too given that Domee Shi is the first solo woman director and first Asian led production at Disney.

daemoens 5y ago

The chinese culture love part isn't that crazy. It sounds so generic too, like it had to have a certain number of bullet points.

systemvoltage 5y ago
It’s just weird. Imagine if they had plastered “American culture love”.
- idiotsecant 5y ago
  Yes, it would be strange because it's basically the default unspoken position.
- Barrin92 5y ago
  yes, just imagine if there was an entire movie franchise about a patriotic American super soldier dressed in an American flag motif, that'd be crazy right?!
- throaway425119 5y ago
  Curious why you singled out that bit and not "Canada/Toronto love"? Turning Red is the first Pixar film solo-directed by a Chinese-Canadian woman Domee Shi (who also made the Academy Award winning Bao short). The film was inspired by her childhood in Toronto, hence the many Canadian references, and is told from a culturally and gender specific lens. It's a 2nd generation immigrant story. Remember, there are tons of Chinese people out there who have little or nothing to do with the authoritarian Chinese state. I should know. I'm one of them. This knee-jerk bias against anything Chinese is xenophobic and racist.
  - systemvoltage 5y ago
    I could have but I noticed that Disney has been kowtowing to CCP since HK protests. So I see a clear link. I am gonna push back on you for this absolutely baseless accusation of racism. This seems to be a pattern to gain moral superiority over others. Find ways to accuse others of racism/bigotry, what have you. Little do you know, I've lived in Chengdu for 6 months and still have many friends. So kindly go f yourself.
    - throaway425119 5y ago
      Living in China doesn't absolve you from holding what is absolutely a racist/xenophobic line of thinking. I don't say you are xenophobic, but your utterances absolutely are. This is not some attempt on my part to gain any kind of moral superiority but to speak out against what is clearly a baseless insinuation, associating a Pixar film made by a Chinese Canadian director with the CCP when there is no clear link. Asian Americans are currently targeted with verbal and physical violence because of pervasive undifferentiated narratives the likes of which you espouse.
      - systemvoltage 5y ago
        I am apalled. Not sure what to tell you as a person of Asian origin myself. I hope you find peace.
        throaway425119 5y ago
        I am equally appalled. Your origin is immaterial. Before you insinuate anything in the future, step back and think -- is this true? Did I bother to investigate further? You made insinuations based on vague associations and no evidence at all. Insinuations are deadly because you don't even have to worry about something being true or not because once you've planted an idea, it's there. Comments like yours create seeds for narratives that get planted and reinforced. You might not care, but many of us have to live with those narratives thrust upon us.

idiotsecant 5y ago

Liking elements of Chinese culture is fine. It's one of the longer continuous cultures left on earth, there's quite a lot of material there. If you can't find anything to love it's probably not a problem with Chinese culture. You can enjoy the mythology of another group without automatically being enthralled by their government, relax.

systemvoltage 5y ago
Telling someone to relax in any argument is pretty condescending. My guess is that this is due to Disney’s questionable relationship with Chinese Communist Party.
- throaway425119 5y ago
  Oh if you only you would step back and investigate for a second what the story is about instead of jumping to such a knee-jerk conclusion....
pizza 5y ago
Come on - this is pure cynicism on Mozilla's part. We're not seeing this because Mozilla is trying to increase cultural understanding (cross cultural understanding is something I wholeheartedly support) - we're seeing this because Mozilla wants to make money by grabbing their users' attention for free and selling it for money. It's not even opt-in, it's opt-out. We're not Mozilla's customer any more at this point, the customer is the one buying the ad space. Gives a new meaning to "Just Browsing" the web when your browser itself is becoming more and more like a mall.
moltke 5y ago
The implication here is that if you don't agree with them you're either ignorant or racist which isn't great.

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woodruffw 5y ago

It's very clearly lighthearted, unless you think that "Boy bands" and "General disdain of dodgeball" are overriding, all-consuming values of the Mozilla Foundation.

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lurker616 5y ago

Taken out of context, it seems weird. But not so weird when you see this movie is trying to increase representation of asian americans in film. The protagonist is a canadian-chinese girl growing up in canada. It's meant to celebrate diverse cultures of immigrants and improve the self-image of people not represented by hollywood.

brnaftr361 5y ago
How much money would you bet that the vast majority of the staff that contributed to the core of the movie are not asian? I'd bet a lot.
- jeromegv 5y ago
  Good thing you didn’t bet because you’d have lost a lot.
- Barrin92 5y ago
  You'd lose a lot too given that Domee Shi is the first solo woman director and first Asian led production at Disney.