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This is an absurdly cynical view. For one, Stanford admissions are growing over time (even if admit rate is dropping) - https://ivyleagueprep.com/stanford-univ
by andreyk 5y ago
This is an absurdly cynical view.
For one, Stanford admissions are growing over time (even if admit rate is dropping) - https://ivyleagueprep.com/stanford-university-class-of-2024/ https://ivyleagueprep.com/stanford-university-class-of-2024/
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/04/09/a-majority-of-u-s-colleges-admit-most-students-who-apply/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/04/09/a-majority-...
Two, growing class size this much is not easy, as additional housing is required.
Three, part of the value proposition of elite schools is to be surrounded by smart ambitious people, and to have the prestige associates with the school to be more competitive in the future. Thiel is right this is partially bad, but realistically competition is inherently part of capitalism. The same is true of top tech companies - their value proposition is not just an absurd salary, but the prestige of working at eg Google and having that on your resume.
And fourth, Stanford offers a lot of online certificates, and has SCPD admissions. Georgia Tech has a whole online Masters degree that has had thousands if not tens of thousands of admits. The trend is for education to be more accessible, not less.
Granted, I'm biased as someone who went to Georgia Tech and Stanford. But this take by Thiel is entirely reductive, even if it does have a grain of truth to it. Much of life is zero sum (what is job hunting if not that) and while it's not ideal, it's silly to single out elite colleges as being bad for it.
- Dracophoenix 5y agoI think your reading a little too much into the quotes. As I understand, he's correcting - or at least explicating - a mistaken assumption commonly promoted by parents to their children, school counselors to their students, and politicians to their constituents. He's not singling out top-tier academic institutions, but doing the opposite by demonstrating that they're no different from the Olympics. Many will enter, few will win. With that said, I disagree that much of the world is a zero-sum game. You couldn't have innovation if that was the case.
- dnissley 5y agoI think you're misreading your source. Didn't run all the numbers, but the bars represent total applicants and the green lines represent overall admit rate. Graduating class year 2024: 47498 applicants * 4% admit rate = ~1900 students admitted Graduating class year 2017: 38828 applicants * 6% admit rate = ~2330 students admitted Seems to be going in the wrong direction, but that's only two data points.