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Or people who live in extreme climates and rely on HVAC systems to pump air conditioned / heated air in their homes and environments the majority of the time?
by dimitrios1 5y ago
Or people who live in extreme climates and rely on HVAC systems to pump air conditioned / heated air in their homes and environments the majority of the time?
The reality is the majority of our modern world and lives can be seen as a waste of energy, resources, and, "hubris against nature" and it seems like there is some subjective line for each person that delineates what is too far.
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- worstestes 5y agoAre we really equating technology relevant to our survival in different climates to keeping a manicured lawn?
- sokoloff 5y agoThe overwhelming majority of HVAC energy use is for comfort, not survival.
- dimitrios1 5y agoThis just proves my point. Quite a generous framing to support your subjective view! "Technology relevant to our survival in different climates" can also be restated as "wasting energy and resources to support people living comfortably in naturally uninhabitable environments", it just depends on what degree of an environmentalist extremist you are. Why should we burn endless amounts of gas/coal/other energy when the "natural" solution is to either naturally adapt or to simply live in more habitable environments. Anyways, yes, I'll give you that comparing HVAC to lawns is silly, but it doesn't take much imagination to think of less silly examples that we accept. So my question is who draws the lines? Whose standard is the standard that everyone should follow? Manicured lawns not cool, ok. What about backyard pools? What about irrigation systems? What about drainage ditches or other infrastructure that allow for land to perk so more housing can be made available, but negatively affects downstream wildlife? Etc, etc.
- woodruffw 5y agoIt's not clear that "drawing lines" is a useful mental model in this scenario. Speaking personally, it's about externalities: American suburbs have ludicrous amounts of common and private infrastructure, all financed through the lie of infinite and perpetual growth. All of that infrastructure has hidden externalities, ones that aren't being addressed on the individual or state levels. Monoculture lawns are just one tiny example of that, manifest in their cost to the local ecosystem (and additional water demands, pesticide use, &c.).