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India Turning Its Back on Ukraine

horns4lyfe 5y ago
So will America’s corporate virtue signaling extend to punishing India (where it would actually involve some financial sacrifice)? I’m doubtful.
ridiculous_leke 5y ago
> The deep Indian strategic empathy toward Russia is rooted in India’s post-colonial heritage, a strong and understandable anti-Western sentiment that is largely the consequence of British colonial rule. During the Cold War, this transmuted into anti-Americanism, and India, though officially a leader of the Non-Aligned Movement, was closer with Moscow than with Washington. There is truth to this since India saw similarities between itself and the socialist world. However, another factor that fueled anti-Americanism was America's closeness with Pakistan (starting in 60s). I do not understand why the authors did not explore that aspect.
- screye 5y ago
  The US sending nuclear submarines to the Indian shores to support Pakistan in its genocide of Bangladesh, tells you all you need to know about India's America-skepticism and America as an imperialist nation. America only looks out for its interests, period. India knows that and is reorienting accordingly. The US wont come to save India if Pakistan or China invade in the immediate future. Indian weapons are still mostly Russian. Thus, India can't do a clear break from Russia like Western Nato countries.
- qiskit 5y ago
  Also, India has been sanctioned by the US as well. http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/asiapcf/9805/13/india.us/ http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/asiapcf/9805/13/india.us/ The Indian elites know ( or they should know ) that the US and the west are their enemies as well. If india ever starts to develop and rise, we ( the US/UK/Australia/Canada/EU/NATO/etc ) will be attacking india just like we are attacking china right now. Just like we attacked Japan in the 80s when their star rose and almost eclipsed the US. India, Africa, Russia, China, even parts of south america, etc have the same common enemy - the West. The problem is that they simply cannot coordinated with themselves to counter the West. Together, they'd crush the west. If they ever joined forces, it would be the end of the international order started since columbus really. But individually, they are no match for the west. China has no shot against the West. India has no shot. Russia has no shot. They lack the racial, cultural, political, financial, etc cohesion that makes the West what it is.
opensores 5y ago
lashkhi 5y ago
aussiegreenie 5y ago
Modi think he needs access to Russia weapons to counter Chineses support of Pakistan. Also, the BJP is a neo-fasist organisation than does not care about Indians let alone anyone else.
- ridiculous_leke 5y ago
  It's not just Modi. All major parties and people in general are on board with this. Modi is probably the most pro-West Prime Minister India had till now and, centrist/left-wing parties are significantly more pro-Russia.
- kumarharsh 5y ago
  I think you need to read more or change your source of news. India has made the most progress in the past decade than under most previous governments. Just recently there were regional elections which were won overwhelmingly by the party due to their socialist work in fixing some long-standing basic problems like guarenteed clean water to each home, electricity, free rations during COVID lockdowns, etc in one of the poorest states (by per-capita GDP).

So will America’s corporate virtue signaling extend to punishing India (where it would actually involve some financial sacrifice)? I’m doubtful.

ridiculous_leke 5y ago

> The deep Indian strategic empathy toward Russia is rooted in India’s post-colonial heritage, a strong and understandable anti-Western sentiment that is largely the consequence of British colonial rule. During the Cold War, this transmuted into anti-Americanism, and India, though officially a leader of the Non-Aligned Movement, was closer with Moscow than with Washington. There is truth to this since India saw similarities between itself and the socialist world. However, another factor that fueled anti-Americanism was America's closeness with Pakistan (starting in 60s). I do not understand why the authors did not explore that aspect.

screye 5y ago
The US sending nuclear submarines to the Indian shores to support Pakistan in its genocide of Bangladesh, tells you all you need to know about India's America-skepticism and America as an imperialist nation. America only looks out for its interests, period. India knows that and is reorienting accordingly. The US wont come to save India if Pakistan or China invade in the immediate future. Indian weapons are still mostly Russian. Thus, India can't do a clear break from Russia like Western Nato countries.
qiskit 5y ago
Also, India has been sanctioned by the US as well. http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/asiapcf/9805/13/india.us/ http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/asiapcf/9805/13/india.us/ The Indian elites know ( or they should know ) that the US and the west are their enemies as well. If india ever starts to develop and rise, we ( the US/UK/Australia/Canada/EU/NATO/etc ) will be attacking india just like we are attacking china right now. Just like we attacked Japan in the 80s when their star rose and almost eclipsed the US. India, Africa, Russia, China, even parts of south america, etc have the same common enemy - the West. The problem is that they simply cannot coordinated with themselves to counter the West. Together, they'd crush the west. If they ever joined forces, it would be the end of the international order started since columbus really. But individually, they are no match for the west. China has no shot against the West. India has no shot. Russia has no shot. They lack the racial, cultural, political, financial, etc cohesion that makes the West what it is.

opensores 5y ago

lashkhi 5y ago

aussiegreenie 5y ago

Modi think he needs access to Russia weapons to counter Chineses support of Pakistan. Also, the BJP is a neo-fasist organisation than does not care about Indians let alone anyone else.

ridiculous_leke 5y ago
It's not just Modi. All major parties and people in general are on board with this. Modi is probably the most pro-West Prime Minister India had till now and, centrist/left-wing parties are significantly more pro-Russia.
kumarharsh 5y ago
I think you need to read more or change your source of news. India has made the most progress in the past decade than under most previous governments. Just recently there were regional elections which were won overwhelmingly by the party due to their socialist work in fixing some long-standing basic problems like guarenteed clean water to each home, electricity, free rations during COVID lockdowns, etc in one of the poorest states (by per-capita GDP).