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> The past two years have been a dystopia for the entire planet I must be living on a different planet then. > but forcing everyone to live in fear is not the

> The past two years have been a dystopia for the entire planet I must be living on a different planet then. > but forcing everyone to live in fear is not the solution Nobody forced me. I could have gone into the office. But why should I have? Being vaxxed and boostered the risk is relatively low. Still I don't go back. The last two years were the most free of all in my career. I missed theater. And concerts. But regarding work. Or weekly food shopping with distance or click and collect were a boon. Do I expect that to be true for everybody? Hell no. Everybody has a different view. Projecting ones view onto the planet probably dies not help us discuss in good faith.

0des 5y ago
I get what the kids mean about privilege now
- sdoering 5y ago
  Am I aware that I am in very happy circumstances? Sure, absolutely. I am. I also worked hard to be were I am today. While I don't do everything for money I still worked very hard to be were I am today. Less than 15 years ago, I was well below the poverty line. In the meantime, I live well. And I can't complain. Still, I know that as the child of a middle-class single father, I am clearly counting as privileged.
  - 0des 5y ago
    > I also worked hard to be were I am today. Everyone worked their entire lives to get to where they are in this moment, whether that's rich or poor, privileged or not. Enjoy your blessings.
jack_pp 5y ago
The parent argument can be used for a lot of activities outside your own house. If you like WFH and not having any social activities then more power to you. Even if "only" 30% of the population had a very bad time during the lockdowns I would still call the last 2 years a dystopia.
- sdoering 5y ago
  I still have a lot of activities. Most of them were still possible during stay at home/distancing orders. We even kept our sport/dance group running via zoom. Did cooking sessions and social dates. I am enjoying the moments to meet some people in person. Even in group settings, when our local business network is able to meet and enjoy the produce from the farms and producers in the network. > Even if "only" 30% of the population As said I would call it a dystopia for these people. Not for the planet or all members of society. Else you would need to call pre Corona times a dystopia as well as around your number of people probably have a bad time in "normal" times.
  - jack_pp 5y ago
    > We even kept our sport/dance group running via zoom You and me are very different people. Maybe that would be acceptable a couple of months in but not after TWO YEARS
    - sdoering 5y ago
      Agreed. We are different. That's what I am implying from the get go. And so are many others. I totally get that people want to return to the office. To socializing, to chats at the coffee machine. That people want to travel to clients. Have workshops, go to conferences. And so on. As much as I understand how people discovered more freedom during the pandemic and do not want to trade this freedom in for the sake of the ones that want to go back to the way it was before. We need ways to accommodate both.
whateveracct 5y ago
> The last two years were the most free of all in my career. I missed theater. And concerts. Remote work is even more fun when there's movies and shows and other events available. Makes all that extra free time during the day even more fun :) I've been remote for half a decade and I can't wait for stuff to open up. Feels half-retired.

0des 5y ago

I get what the kids mean about privilege now

sdoering 5y ago
Am I aware that I am in very happy circumstances? Sure, absolutely. I am. I also worked hard to be were I am today. While I don't do everything for money I still worked very hard to be were I am today. Less than 15 years ago, I was well below the poverty line. In the meantime, I live well. And I can't complain. Still, I know that as the child of a middle-class single father, I am clearly counting as privileged.
- 0des 5y ago
  > I also worked hard to be were I am today. Everyone worked their entire lives to get to where they are in this moment, whether that's rich or poor, privileged or not. Enjoy your blessings.

jack_pp 5y ago

The parent argument can be used for a lot of activities outside your own house. If you like WFH and not having any social activities then more power to you. Even if "only" 30% of the population had a very bad time during the lockdowns I would still call the last 2 years a dystopia.

sdoering 5y ago
I still have a lot of activities. Most of them were still possible during stay at home/distancing orders. We even kept our sport/dance group running via zoom. Did cooking sessions and social dates. I am enjoying the moments to meet some people in person. Even in group settings, when our local business network is able to meet and enjoy the produce from the farms and producers in the network. > Even if "only" 30% of the population As said I would call it a dystopia for these people. Not for the planet or all members of society. Else you would need to call pre Corona times a dystopia as well as around your number of people probably have a bad time in "normal" times.
- jack_pp 5y ago
  > We even kept our sport/dance group running via zoom You and me are very different people. Maybe that would be acceptable a couple of months in but not after TWO YEARS
  - sdoering 5y ago
    Agreed. We are different. That's what I am implying from the get go. And so are many others. I totally get that people want to return to the office. To socializing, to chats at the coffee machine. That people want to travel to clients. Have workshops, go to conferences. And so on. As much as I understand how people discovered more freedom during the pandemic and do not want to trade this freedom in for the sake of the ones that want to go back to the way it was before. We need ways to accommodate both.

whateveracct 5y ago

> The last two years were the most free of all in my career. I missed theater. And concerts. Remote work is even more fun when there's movies and shows and other events available. Makes all that extra free time during the day even more fun :) I've been remote for half a decade and I can't wait for stuff to open up. Feels half-retired.