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"The Spectacle is not a collection of images but a social relation among people mediated by images." - Guy Debord You could literally write a PhD thesis on thi
by narrator 5y ago
"The Spectacle is not a collection of images but a social relation among people mediated by images." - Guy Debord
You could literally write a PhD thesis on this Mavis Beacon thing by running it through the lense of Debord's "Society of the Spectacle."
- _3u10 5y agoThrough that lens she’s more real than most. I loved his idea that JFK eulogized his own funeral.
- oh_sigh 5y agoOut of curiosity, have you ever publicly referred to the Society of the Spectacle more than 3 months ago? For whatever reason, I am seeing all sorts of references all over the internet to Debord and SotS in the past couple months, and I'm just trying to track down why this is happening. I don't think this is a yellow car phenomenon because I've been into Situationism for the past 20 years and am fairly attuned to references to it that I stumble across.
- narrator 5y agoI think the "Contain" podcast (https://podbay.fm/p/contain-podcast https://podbay.fm/p/contain-podcast) got me into it originally. It has a lot of guests who reference stuff like "commodity fetishism" and I just started looking that up to figure out what they were talking about and this eventually led to Debord. As an aside, The "Contain" podcast is great. Lots of interviews with lots of unusual intellectual people.
- 8b16380d 5y agoDebord has been a well known figure in far right circles for a while now
- antioedipus 5y agoThis website never fails to amuse me… What is the intention of this comment? That Debord is “far right” or a reactionary? That people who read him are? That it’s interesting that a Marxist philosopher is read by reactionaries?
- 8b16380d 5y agoJust giving context to why Debord is apart of the zeitgeist these days. And Society and the Spectacle is certainly a reactionary text; no surprise it is read by other reactionaries.
- pessimizer 5y agoAn explanation for recent popularity. I was confused out of my mind when the entire country started talking about Saul Alinsky all of a sudden, until I heard that an alcoholic right-wing crackpot was screaming about him while drawing on a blackboard nightly on television. This happens a lot if you read books that aren't bestsellers. A thing that for decades you couldn't find a person who had heard of it suddenly is in television commercials and image macros because a character mentioned it in a movie, or some twitch streamer decided to rail about it for an hour, and it caught fire.
- narrator 5y agoSince you seem to be an expert on this kind of stuff, does the far left read the far right ever? If so, which authors?
- 8b16380d 5y agoCouldn't tell ya, but I would think so.
- lmm 5y agoI've had the exact opposite experience FWIW - it seemed to be everywhere maybe 6-12 months ago and then I stopped hearing about it recently.
- prvc 5y agoDoes that quote actually mean anything, though?