4 ms·

Likewise. I'm afraid years of seeing people talk in great detail, in public, around the edges of something they "aren't ready to talk about" has led only to gr

Likewise. I'm afraid years of seeing people talk in great detail, in public, around the edges of something they "aren't ready to talk about" has led only to greater disappointment or greater cynicism. Conversations like this in private, sure. A straight recruitment post for contributors to a private project? Yeah. This sort of thing? Come back when you're ready to talk about it. It's fine, we all have our own thing going on! [Edit for weird tiredness error]

woah 5y ago
Remember the Segway?
- unfocussed_mike 5y ago
  Sure, that's the thing that was going to revolutionise transport and is now used to to play polo at corporate team-building days, right? Not sure what you're getting at here. Is it your contention that Kamen talked about it too soon, or too late?
  - Jtsummers 5y ago
    The Segway got a lot of pre-announcement hype. It was referred to as "It" and a lot of well-connected people were allowed to see It and talked It up (at least in quotes splashed around the news) and the hype was way too much for the actual thing. Which got a "That's it?" response from most people and the press. It was supposed to be revolutionary, as big as the PC. It was a scooter.
    - unfocussed_mike 5y ago
      It was revolutionary in the self-balancing aspect. I don't think it's the hype cycle that killed the Segway so much as the unwillingness of really any national government or major municipality to encourage people to whizz around on pavements using a powered device. Nowadays, regrettably, that horse has bolted, and all sorts of sociopaths think foopaths are the right place for their badly-maintained future-electrical-fire on wheels!
      - Jtsummers 5y ago
        Self-balancing may have been revolutionary, but not as revolutionary as the PC, which is how it was playing out in the news at the time (pre-announcement). Though maybe that's a matter of opinion, but I doubt most people think that a self-balancing scooter is going to change the world, which is how it was getting hyped up. The hype really did help kill it because expectations were way too high, and the cost ($5000 or so, used car prices), and then it ended up with the public image as the thing tourists and mall cops used.
      - unmole 5y ago
        > It was revolutionary in the self-balancing aspect. What exactly did it revolutionize?
    - michaelpb 5y ago
      Ah yes... "Project Ginger" was promised to fully revolutionize society, bigger than the Internet, etc. People do seem to forget how old the tech-hype circus is, and with a lot of the same promises, always "too early yet" with the promised benefits lying just around the corner.

woah 5y ago

Remember the Segway?

unfocussed_mike 5y ago
Sure, that's the thing that was going to revolutionise transport and is now used to to play polo at corporate team-building days, right? Not sure what you're getting at here. Is it your contention that Kamen talked about it too soon, or too late?
- Jtsummers 5y ago
  The Segway got a lot of pre-announcement hype. It was referred to as "It" and a lot of well-connected people were allowed to see It and talked It up (at least in quotes splashed around the news) and the hype was way too much for the actual thing. Which got a "That's it?" response from most people and the press. It was supposed to be revolutionary, as big as the PC. It was a scooter.
  - unfocussed_mike 5y ago
    It was revolutionary in the self-balancing aspect. I don't think it's the hype cycle that killed the Segway so much as the unwillingness of really any national government or major municipality to encourage people to whizz around on pavements using a powered device. Nowadays, regrettably, that horse has bolted, and all sorts of sociopaths think foopaths are the right place for their badly-maintained future-electrical-fire on wheels!
    - Jtsummers 5y ago
      Self-balancing may have been revolutionary, but not as revolutionary as the PC, which is how it was playing out in the news at the time (pre-announcement). Though maybe that's a matter of opinion, but I doubt most people think that a self-balancing scooter is going to change the world, which is how it was getting hyped up. The hype really did help kill it because expectations were way too high, and the cost ($5000 or so, used car prices), and then it ended up with the public image as the thing tourists and mall cops used.
    - unmole 5y ago
      > It was revolutionary in the self-balancing aspect. What exactly did it revolutionize?
  - michaelpb 5y ago
    Ah yes... "Project Ginger" was promised to fully revolutionize society, bigger than the Internet, etc. People do seem to forget how old the tech-hype circus is, and with a lot of the same promises, always "too early yet" with the promised benefits lying just around the corner.