> they’re the best when it comes to this When all other electronics companies always had user replaceable batteries, Apple was the company that decided to not

> they’re the best when it comes to this When all other electronics companies always had user replaceable batteries, Apple was the company that decided to not do it. Because the regulatory bodies did nothing to fix this, other companies copied Apple because that was profitable for them. Apple is not only not the best, it is THE worst. In fact, it wouldn't have come to regulatory intervention if Apple had done the right thing in the first place. > At a certain point the old hardware just can’t handle the new OS as new features get added It doesn't necessarily need a "new OS". My fridge has the same OS it came with 8 years ago and it works fine, my raspberry pi 2 model b from 7 years ago works just as well as it did when I got it, with essentially the same OS. Even the first gen Raspberry Pis from 10 years ago work just as well. Most people don't necessarily need "new features". And if they do, they can make that choice and get a new device that does those features better. > Samsung to add updates past two years before focusing your wrath on apple. Samsung provides official updates for less time as Apple (4 vs roughly 7 years) but they provide an official way to unlock your bootloader and install other operating systems, so you can go with community supported ones. If phones themselves start lasting longer, there will be bigger demand for these operating systems and maybe even third party commercial ones which are easy to install, maybe with a subscription even. BUT, just because Samsung does this NOW does not mean they will continue to do so. They have demonstrated that if some shitty company comes along and abuses their position for profits, Samsung is happy to copy the strategy. I understand that this forum has people who work for Apple or some other company or have investments in them or have positioned themselves to benefit from their success... and have incentives to defend them for short term profits for themselves... and those ideas are also picked up by even those who have nothing to do with it... and I believe that is the biggest group of people. Which is why I think brining this out and discussing it is important. Anyways, there are a lot of possibilities if we are to focus on quality long-term sustainable products. Just because the current market is filled with disposable short-term products designed to be replaced all the time, doesn't mean this is the only way.