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> you likely didn't work at a FAANG or similar company I do work at a FAANG company. I'm very much familiar with the promo process, as an individual, as a mana
by staff357 5y ago
> you likely didn't work at a FAANG or similar company
I do work at a FAANG company. I'm very much familiar with the promo process, as an individual, as a manager and as a peer reviewer.
Managers cannot unilaterally promote a report, but they have an influential role in helping shape the packet, in getting the right reviews from sufficiently senior employees and in trailing performance reviews. The managers also read the ladder description, not just the committees, and make sure the packets contain "evidence" of all the key points. Nothing broken here, just rigmarole that people on all sides need to follow.
You can choose to believe that the committees can do a good job of ranking applicants, but a large part of this is down to how good the packet itself is.
I should state that nothing is wrong here in my opinion. There's no managerial conspiracy or role inflation. My point is that being a Jedi-like "Staff-plus" engineer is not at all necessary to reach the level.
- menzoic 5y agoTrue the manager does have influence in that way. They can definitely increase the chances. I read the parent comment as saying it was as flexible as Senior and below promos which is why I incorrectly assumed you hadn't worked in FAANG culture. I think the promo comittees do a significantly better job than relying on managers alone, but they definitely have bias. Not perfect, or even good but still way better because there's less incentive to game the system. I agree that Staff-plus isn't Jedi-like and there is a trope about that. I assumed your criticism there was about the StaffEng book which doesn't promote that trope, instead it gives a practical guide on what it usually takes to get that promo.