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I would say that I found Bitwarden much better than keepass for selfhosted too.

funnym0nk3y 5y ago
I think it strongly depends on the ecosystem one is in and the usecase. Android support for keepass is pretty solid with keepass2android.
andreareina 5y ago
Are you using the official server or vaultwarden? Do you mind getting more into the experience of it?
- happymellon 5y ago
  This is true, I am using Vaultwarden now rather than actual Bitwarden. In Docker it took seconds to get running. Hardening it took a little longer, but fail2ban was still only 6 lines of config.
- andix 5y ago
  I have to try that, the official server wants to spin up a few containers, a MSSQL and needs 2-4GB RAM and 25GB disk space. lol...
  - happymellon 5y ago
    This uses sqlite and I see it using about 30Mb. MSSQL is never the correct answer.
    - andix 5y ago
      Mssql is good if you need a 1TB+ db and replication and are too lazy to set up postgres replication. And if you can’t afford oracle. ;)
doliveira 5y ago
KeePass' UI is quite clunky, but last time I checked you couldn't even do proper keyboard navigation with Bitwarden, or auto-type outside the browser...
- happymellon 5y ago
  I'm not sure I quite understand your comment. > Keyboard navigation I use the `bw` command, and haven't had issues with the keyboard. > auto-type outside the browser. Is this mobile or desktop that we are talking about here? Mobile worked correctly for me. Integration for all of these password managers on desktop isn't great, and using the fingerprint to unlock, similar to 1Password, would be nice.
  - doliveira 5y ago
    I mean the desktop UI, I haven't tried the mobile. By keyboard navigation I mean basic stuff like using arrow keys, shortcut keys for menus, etc... It all felt very much mouse-centric. And Auto-type is KeepassXC' global shortcut key to invoke auto-type in any application, even terminal windows. AFAIK most password managers don't even think of supporting this.
    - razemio 5y ago
      Bitwarden has a cli app. With this you can automate everything. Regarding keyboard navigation in the ui. If your are into that just use the cli and create some helpful scripts for rofi, alfred, ueli or whatever you are using if you want to have a ui. Bitwarden is so insanely good that this minor downside shouldn't keep you from using it. My mum is really bad with PCs. Yet bitwarden has solved all her password problems. Especially on mobile. With KeepassXC she was just frustrated.
      - sir_brickalot 5y ago
        Are you saying I could for example start an RDP session with autofilled credentials? I just LOVE the Keepass feature CTRL+U with 'URL overrides' to open rdp, ssh, vpn or ftp sessions. https://keepass.info/help/base/autourl.html https://keepass.info/help/base/autourl.html

I think it strongly depends on the ecosystem one is in and the usecase. Android support for keepass is pretty solid with keepass2android.

andreareina 5y ago

Are you using the official server or vaultwarden? Do you mind getting more into the experience of it?

happymellon 5y ago
This is true, I am using Vaultwarden now rather than actual Bitwarden. In Docker it took seconds to get running. Hardening it took a little longer, but fail2ban was still only 6 lines of config.
andix 5y ago
I have to try that, the official server wants to spin up a few containers, a MSSQL and needs 2-4GB RAM and 25GB disk space. lol...
- happymellon 5y ago
  This uses sqlite and I see it using about 30Mb. MSSQL is never the correct answer.
  - andix 5y ago
    Mssql is good if you need a 1TB+ db and replication and are too lazy to set up postgres replication. And if you can’t afford oracle. ;)

doliveira 5y ago

KeePass' UI is quite clunky, but last time I checked you couldn't even do proper keyboard navigation with Bitwarden, or auto-type outside the browser...

happymellon 5y ago
I'm not sure I quite understand your comment. > Keyboard navigation I use the `bw` command, and haven't had issues with the keyboard. > auto-type outside the browser. Is this mobile or desktop that we are talking about here? Mobile worked correctly for me. Integration for all of these password managers on desktop isn't great, and using the fingerprint to unlock, similar to 1Password, would be nice.
- doliveira 5y ago
  I mean the desktop UI, I haven't tried the mobile. By keyboard navigation I mean basic stuff like using arrow keys, shortcut keys for menus, etc... It all felt very much mouse-centric. And Auto-type is KeepassXC' global shortcut key to invoke auto-type in any application, even terminal windows. AFAIK most password managers don't even think of supporting this.
  - razemio 5y ago
    Bitwarden has a cli app. With this you can automate everything. Regarding keyboard navigation in the ui. If your are into that just use the cli and create some helpful scripts for rofi, alfred, ueli or whatever you are using if you want to have a ui. Bitwarden is so insanely good that this minor downside shouldn't keep you from using it. My mum is really bad with PCs. Yet bitwarden has solved all her password problems. Especially on mobile. With KeepassXC she was just frustrated.
    - sir_brickalot 5y ago
      Are you saying I could for example start an RDP session with autofilled credentials? I just LOVE the Keepass feature CTRL+U with 'URL overrides' to open rdp, ssh, vpn or ftp sessions. https://keepass.info/help/base/autourl.html https://keepass.info/help/base/autourl.html