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The only message these sanctions are generate is more hate towards the west. People in the west think that most Russians appreciate the attitude of the west tow

The only message these sanctions are generate is more hate towards the west. People in the west think that most Russians appreciate the attitude of the west towards Russia. In fact it's the total opposite. Not entirely strange, since a lot of people feel the effect of sanctions for a long time. The current sanctions will not result in hate towards the Russian government, but more hate towards us the west.

zarzavat 5y ago
There’s no cure for stupidity but any thinking Russian will place the blame for the sanctions upon Putin, as there’s a clear cause and effect involved. Russia invaded Ukraine, then vast numbers of companies left Russia and the economy collapsed. Propaganda works based on simple logic, be it truth or lies, and this simple truth is a lot more believable than the “Russian invaded Ukraine to rid it of neo-nazis” narrative that the Kremlin is trying to push.
kristiandupont 5y ago
That is probably true but it's also true that throughout history, peoples tend to support their government when their lives are good/improving in general, regardless of what the government stands for otherwise.
ithkuil 5y ago
If your country was at war with another country, you would not be doing business with them. The effects would be indistinguishable from sanctions. This is war. It's just one we're the western powers are pretending they are not at war with Russia. And for good reasons. People in the US are too used to being able to wield such an asymmetrical power, namely the ability to just respond to violence with violence without really worrying about the consequences (and some people even threat to "just nuke them" etc). However here the opponent is a nuclear power, and one that can employ an effective madman strategy. I don't think these sanctions are designed to apply western soft power. They are a desperate act of war a response to Russian aggression.
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vharuck 5y ago
>The current sanctions will not result in hate towards the Russian government, but more hate towards us the west. In U.S. election seasons, there's a common saying: "It's the economy, stupid." Meaning, the more people feel economic pain, the less they support incumbent candidates. Regardless to whether that incumbent has any control over the economy. The candidates who win elections through scapegoats are usually challengers, and they like to include incumbents among the goat herd. I'd like to think the Russian people are similar to Western citizens. And when the war-time surge of nationalism starts to ebb, they'll blame the people in charge for how bad everything is.

zarzavat 5y ago

There’s no cure for stupidity but any thinking Russian will place the blame for the sanctions upon Putin, as there’s a clear cause and effect involved. Russia invaded Ukraine, then vast numbers of companies left Russia and the economy collapsed. Propaganda works based on simple logic, be it truth or lies, and this simple truth is a lot more believable than the “Russian invaded Ukraine to rid it of neo-nazis” narrative that the Kremlin is trying to push.

kristiandupont 5y ago

That is probably true but it's also true that throughout history, peoples tend to support their government when their lives are good/improving in general, regardless of what the government stands for otherwise.

ithkuil 5y ago

If your country was at war with another country, you would not be doing business with them. The effects would be indistinguishable from sanctions. This is war. It's just one we're the western powers are pretending they are not at war with Russia. And for good reasons. People in the US are too used to being able to wield such an asymmetrical power, namely the ability to just respond to violence with violence without really worrying about the consequences (and some people even threat to "just nuke them" etc). However here the opponent is a nuclear power, and one that can employ an effective madman strategy. I don't think these sanctions are designed to apply western soft power. They are a desperate act of war a response to Russian aggression.

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vharuck 5y ago

>The current sanctions will not result in hate towards the Russian government, but more hate towards us the west. In U.S. election seasons, there's a common saying: "It's the economy, stupid." Meaning, the more people feel economic pain, the less they support incumbent candidates. Regardless to whether that incumbent has any control over the economy. The candidates who win elections through scapegoats are usually challengers, and they like to include incumbents among the goat herd. I'd like to think the Russian people are similar to Western citizens. And when the war-time surge of nationalism starts to ebb, they'll blame the people in charge for how bad everything is.