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Bitwarden if you want a third-party managing your credentials, keepass if you're ok handling the syncing of your password database.

lifthrasiir 5y ago
Bitwarden also works with self-hosted servers.
- happymellon 5y ago
  I would say that I found Bitwarden much better than keepass for selfhosted too.
  - funnym0nk3y 5y ago
    I think it strongly depends on the ecosystem one is in and the usecase. Android support for keepass is pretty solid with keepass2android.
  - andreareina 5y ago
    Are you using the official server or vaultwarden? Do you mind getting more into the experience of it?
    - happymellon 5y ago
      This is true, I am using Vaultwarden now rather than actual Bitwarden. In Docker it took seconds to get running. Hardening it took a little longer, but fail2ban was still only 6 lines of config.
    - andix 5y ago
      I have to try that, the official server wants to spin up a few containers, a MSSQL and needs 2-4GB RAM and 25GB disk space. lol...
      - happymellon 5y ago
        This uses sqlite and I see it using about 30Mb. MSSQL is never the correct answer.
        andix 5y ago
        Mssql is good if you need a 1TB+ db and replication and are too lazy to set up postgres replication. And if you can’t afford oracle. ;)
  - doliveira 5y ago
    KeePass' UI is quite clunky, but last time I checked you couldn't even do proper keyboard navigation with Bitwarden, or auto-type outside the browser...
    - happymellon 5y ago
      I'm not sure I quite understand your comment. > Keyboard navigation I use the `bw` command, and haven't had issues with the keyboard. > auto-type outside the browser. Is this mobile or desktop that we are talking about here? Mobile worked correctly for me. Integration for all of these password managers on desktop isn't great, and using the fingerprint to unlock, similar to 1Password, would be nice.
      - doliveira 5y ago
        I mean the desktop UI, I haven't tried the mobile. By keyboard navigation I mean basic stuff like using arrow keys, shortcut keys for menus, etc... It all felt very much mouse-centric. And Auto-type is KeepassXC' global shortcut key to invoke auto-type in any application, even terminal windows. AFAIK most password managers don't even think of supporting this.
        razemio 5y ago
        Bitwarden has a cli app. With this you can automate everything. Regarding keyboard navigation in the ui. If your are into that just use the cli and create some helpful scripts for rofi, alfred, ueli or whatever you are using if you want to have a ui. Bitwarden is so insanely good that this minor downside shouldn't keep you from using it. My mum is really bad with PCs. Yet bitwarden has solved all her password problems. Especially on mobile. With KeepassXC she was just frustrated.
        sir_brickalot 5y ago
        Are you saying I could for example start an RDP session with autofilled credentials? I just LOVE the Keepass feature CTRL+U with 'URL overrides' to open rdp, ssh, vpn or ftp sessions. https://keepass.info/help/base/autourl.html https://keepass.info/help/base/autourl.html
keeperofdakeys 5y ago
There is also the reimplementation of Bitwarden's server, vaultwarden. https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden. It's worth a look if you're self hosting.
- isjamesalive 5y ago
  +1 for bit/vaultwarden. Nice mobile apps, nice browser plugins, nice web interface. Regular updates, easy to install. Using it for a year + (two years?) no issues. Super grateful.
someotherperson 5y ago
Another +1 for Bitwarden. I moved away from 1Password after the developers essentially ridiculed their customers in their support forum. I realized that it's a hostile, aggressive and short sighted company. That they are engaging in this racist action against Russians helps assure me that I made the right decision. Bitwarden has been a drop-in replacement for all intents and purposes.
- throwawaybetes 5y ago
  Could you show me the thread?
- monkey_monkey 5y ago
  What racist action are you referring to?
  - xanaxagoras 5y ago
    For my money it's hollow virtue signaling, not racism, but he's referring to OPs original post, that Agile Bits removed 1Password from the Russian play store.
- AnonHP 5y ago
  > I moved away from 1Password after the developers essentially ridiculed their customers in their support forum. I realized that it's a hostile, aggressive and short sighted company. I don’t know about this incident of them being racist, but if I leave that aside, your words sound exactly like what I would say about the company! This isn’t something new with Agile Bits ridiculing customers or potential customers on its forums. There have been instances of this several years ago too when people questioned the licensing model and asked about the changes. They essentially behave as if users are stupid and that they (Agile Bits) are the only ones who know what’s best in every case. It’s quite condescending.
  - someotherperson 5y ago
    The incident you’re referring to is exactly the incident that made me move on :)

lifthrasiir 5y ago

Bitwarden also works with self-hosted servers.

happymellon 5y ago
I would say that I found Bitwarden much better than keepass for selfhosted too.
- funnym0nk3y 5y ago
  I think it strongly depends on the ecosystem one is in and the usecase. Android support for keepass is pretty solid with keepass2android.
- andreareina 5y ago
  Are you using the official server or vaultwarden? Do you mind getting more into the experience of it?
  - happymellon 5y ago
    This is true, I am using Vaultwarden now rather than actual Bitwarden. In Docker it took seconds to get running. Hardening it took a little longer, but fail2ban was still only 6 lines of config.
  - andix 5y ago
    I have to try that, the official server wants to spin up a few containers, a MSSQL and needs 2-4GB RAM and 25GB disk space. lol...
    - happymellon 5y ago
      This uses sqlite and I see it using about 30Mb. MSSQL is never the correct answer.
      - andix 5y ago
        Mssql is good if you need a 1TB+ db and replication and are too lazy to set up postgres replication. And if you can’t afford oracle. ;)
- doliveira 5y ago
  KeePass' UI is quite clunky, but last time I checked you couldn't even do proper keyboard navigation with Bitwarden, or auto-type outside the browser...
  - happymellon 5y ago
    I'm not sure I quite understand your comment. > Keyboard navigation I use the `bw` command, and haven't had issues with the keyboard. > auto-type outside the browser. Is this mobile or desktop that we are talking about here? Mobile worked correctly for me. Integration for all of these password managers on desktop isn't great, and using the fingerprint to unlock, similar to 1Password, would be nice.
    - doliveira 5y ago
      I mean the desktop UI, I haven't tried the mobile. By keyboard navigation I mean basic stuff like using arrow keys, shortcut keys for menus, etc... It all felt very much mouse-centric. And Auto-type is KeepassXC' global shortcut key to invoke auto-type in any application, even terminal windows. AFAIK most password managers don't even think of supporting this.
      - razemio 5y ago
        Bitwarden has a cli app. With this you can automate everything. Regarding keyboard navigation in the ui. If your are into that just use the cli and create some helpful scripts for rofi, alfred, ueli or whatever you are using if you want to have a ui. Bitwarden is so insanely good that this minor downside shouldn't keep you from using it. My mum is really bad with PCs. Yet bitwarden has solved all her password problems. Especially on mobile. With KeepassXC she was just frustrated.
        sir_brickalot 5y ago
        Are you saying I could for example start an RDP session with autofilled credentials? I just LOVE the Keepass feature CTRL+U with 'URL overrides' to open rdp, ssh, vpn or ftp sessions. https://keepass.info/help/base/autourl.html https://keepass.info/help/base/autourl.html

keeperofdakeys 5y ago

There is also the reimplementation of Bitwarden's server, vaultwarden. https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden. It's worth a look if you're self hosting.

isjamesalive 5y ago
+1 for bit/vaultwarden. Nice mobile apps, nice browser plugins, nice web interface. Regular updates, easy to install. Using it for a year + (two years?) no issues. Super grateful.

someotherperson 5y ago

Another +1 for Bitwarden. I moved away from 1Password after the developers essentially ridiculed their customers in their support forum. I realized that it's a hostile, aggressive and short sighted company. That they are engaging in this racist action against Russians helps assure me that I made the right decision. Bitwarden has been a drop-in replacement for all intents and purposes.

throwawaybetes 5y ago
Could you show me the thread?
monkey_monkey 5y ago
What racist action are you referring to?
- xanaxagoras 5y ago
  For my money it's hollow virtue signaling, not racism, but he's referring to OPs original post, that Agile Bits removed 1Password from the Russian play store.
AnonHP 5y ago
> I moved away from 1Password after the developers essentially ridiculed their customers in their support forum. I realized that it's a hostile, aggressive and short sighted company. I don’t know about this incident of them being racist, but if I leave that aside, your words sound exactly like what I would say about the company! This isn’t something new with Agile Bits ridiculing customers or potential customers on its forums. There have been instances of this several years ago too when people questioned the licensing model and asked about the changes. They essentially behave as if users are stupid and that they (Agile Bits) are the only ones who know what’s best in every case. It’s quite condescending.
- someotherperson 5y ago
  The incident you’re referring to is exactly the incident that made me move on :)