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Wait, so you're saying that DRM has become so ingrained in modern tech that if I wanted to connect a firestick to a Dumb Display(No electronics other than to dr

Wait, so you're saying that DRM has become so ingrained in modern tech that if I wanted to connect a firestick to a Dumb Display(No electronics other than to drive the display), if that Display doesn't have DRM functionality then the app won't load or play content even though the firetv has the DRM?

xanaxagoras 5y ago
No, the top parent here is FUD. Never give the TV itself access to the internet. Firestick would work for modern DRM, as would apple tv, a computer plugged into HDMI, etc.
- foepys 5y ago
  Please don't throw the word "FUD" around, especially when you didn't understand the comment. GGP did mean HDCP 2.x (DRM to encrypt the signal between display and device) which is often not supported by commercial displays. Unless devices detect a compatible, DRM-protected display, devices will refuse to play UHD content made by the movie industry.
  - rsync 5y ago
    This is true, of course, but modern commercial displays typically do have modern hdmi and hdcp specs so it shouldn’t be an issue. Even 12 year old NEC p-series (used at airports, usually) have hdcp.
    - giantrobot 5y ago
      To stream 4K from commercial services you need HDCP 2.2 or later. This was only introduced in 2013 so a 12 year old TV will not have full HDCP 2.2 support. It might have 2.0 (released in 2008) but that won't enable 4K streaming from a commercial service. All streaming services require HDCP 2.2 support throughout the device chain. Because commercial displays aren't intended to use on-device streaming services or be used in consumer environments they often lack HDCP 2.2 support. While they might support HCDP 1.4 or 2.0, that will only support FHD content either streaming or disc-based. It's fairly difficult to find specs on commercial displays about their HDCP support level.
monocasa 5y ago
It's HDCP that's the sticking point.
numpad0 5y ago
HDMI can be encrypted using HDCP and usually are when playing a movie.
viccuad 5y ago
Yes, that's their plan of 15 years, coming to fruition. Look at Mac support, Windows 11 needing TPM, etc.
dspillett 5y ago
Yep, been that way for a while. I remember a couple of years ago Amazon Prime refusing to play HD on a PC made from parts bought from Amazon (well, the significant ones, definitely the GPU), on a dumb TV bought via Amazon, using an Amazon branded cable... Content obtained via torrent played, and still does, at 1080 perfectly well though, if you are looking for a workaround. I currently pipe stuff to the TV from my media array via Kodi on a Pi. (I do actually pay for Prime, though mainly for the delivery options, and Netflix, but still consume their content "my" way more often than not)
rsync 5y ago
No. Dumb commercial displays with modern hdmi ports function just the way you expect them to. I don’t know what your other child responses are talking about.

xanaxagoras 5y ago

No, the top parent here is FUD. Never give the TV itself access to the internet. Firestick would work for modern DRM, as would apple tv, a computer plugged into HDMI, etc.

foepys 5y ago
Please don't throw the word "FUD" around, especially when you didn't understand the comment. GGP did mean HDCP 2.x (DRM to encrypt the signal between display and device) which is often not supported by commercial displays. Unless devices detect a compatible, DRM-protected display, devices will refuse to play UHD content made by the movie industry.
- rsync 5y ago
  This is true, of course, but modern commercial displays typically do have modern hdmi and hdcp specs so it shouldn’t be an issue. Even 12 year old NEC p-series (used at airports, usually) have hdcp.
  - giantrobot 5y ago
    To stream 4K from commercial services you need HDCP 2.2 or later. This was only introduced in 2013 so a 12 year old TV will not have full HDCP 2.2 support. It might have 2.0 (released in 2008) but that won't enable 4K streaming from a commercial service. All streaming services require HDCP 2.2 support throughout the device chain. Because commercial displays aren't intended to use on-device streaming services or be used in consumer environments they often lack HDCP 2.2 support. While they might support HCDP 1.4 or 2.0, that will only support FHD content either streaming or disc-based. It's fairly difficult to find specs on commercial displays about their HDCP support level.

monocasa 5y ago

It's HDCP that's the sticking point.

numpad0 5y ago

HDMI can be encrypted using HDCP and usually are when playing a movie.

viccuad 5y ago

Yes, that's their plan of 15 years, coming to fruition. Look at Mac support, Windows 11 needing TPM, etc.

dspillett 5y ago

Yep, been that way for a while. I remember a couple of years ago Amazon Prime refusing to play HD on a PC made from parts bought from Amazon (well, the significant ones, definitely the GPU), on a dumb TV bought via Amazon, using an Amazon branded cable... Content obtained via torrent played, and still does, at 1080 perfectly well though, if you are looking for a workaround. I currently pipe stuff to the TV from my media array via Kodi on a Pi. (I do actually pay for Prime, though mainly for the delivery options, and Netflix, but still consume their content "my" way more often than not)

rsync 5y ago

No. Dumb commercial displays with modern hdmi ports function just the way you expect them to. I don’t know what your other child responses are talking about.