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I am Chinese. For this matter, I just want to say that the Western media has been smearing the real China. This is not the real situation.

thevagrant 5y ago
What is the real situation? Do you live in Xinjiang? Curious to hear what's really going on. I've seen videos from Xinjiang taken by Chinese themselves and the content appears alarming. It's a misunderstanding?
- AsceticBear 5y ago
  I am not in Xinjiang, but I have some friends studying in Xinjiang. I remember that some bloggers went to Xinjiang to shoot videos on youtube, which are more authentic. The security maintenance in the area may be stricter, but there is no such thing as forced labor.
  - philliphaydon 5y ago
    You mean the YouTubers who were shuffled around together to specific areas, restaurants, etc and who all show the exact same things? They are not authentic.
    - AsceticBear 5y ago
      Then the best way I can think of is to let the local people in Xinjiang judge. Moreover, the Xinjiang issue is really sensitive, and I hope everyone will not fan the flames. Another question, I don't quite understand why Western countries always like to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries. Because they are developing better, they should go to other countries to play the role of savior?
      - philliphaydon 5y ago
        If people were allowed to go to Xinjiang without having people block them, follow them, take their cameras and memory cards, threaten them, etc. and freely allowed to move around and interview people etc and take photos and ask questions. Then one of 2 things would happen. Either it proves all the information and eye witness reports we currently have. Or it shows everything in Xinjiang is fine. But the fact no one is allowed to freely investigate Xinjiang only enforces that someone is going on and the CCP is trying to hide it.
      - randomhodler84 5y ago
        They will never be allowed to speak the truth. Why is it so sensitive… because genocide is bad for business (if the world finds out). The world wants to interfere because genocide is a crime against humanity. Every rape, every murder, every torture. It is unacceptable, and so is denying it.
      - CogitoCogito 5y ago
        > Another question, I don't quite understand why Western countries always like to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries. China does this constantly and they do it quite openly.
      - pertymcpert 5y ago
        > Moreover, the Xinjiang issue is really sensitive, Can you not see the issue with what you wrote? It's like you've almost made the mental connection, but you're not self aware enough to realize the last part.
      - honkdaddy 5y ago
        _Every_ time I try to have a conversation with a Chinese person about Xinjiang, they talk themselves into a corner and then lamely point at “the West” and all its apparent sins and meddling, as if there’s somehow any equivalence. There is a literal genocide happening in your country and you are complicit. Shame, shame, shame on you.
  - randomhodler84 5y ago
    Everything you are being told is a lie. Nothing you read or hear is true. You cannot trust the local media.
jollybean 5y ago
There are many, and large, very well documented re-education camps where Uyghur people are placed for little or no reason beyond their ethnicity. Xianjing is an ultra police state, with some cities having police stations every few hundred meters, identity checks, absolute media controls, total propaganda. Don't even try cover it up, defend it, or try to make some kind of argument based in moral ambiguity i.e. 'racism in the US' which is not remotely reproaching the level of oppression.
mistrial9 5y ago
like this ? Buzzfeed News journalists Megha Rajagopalan, Alison Killing, and Christo Buschek Win the Pulitzer Prize for Exposing Work Camps https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/pulitzer-prize-buzzfeed-news-won-china-detention-camps https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/pulitzer-priz...

thevagrant 5y ago

What is the real situation? Do you live in Xinjiang? Curious to hear what's really going on. I've seen videos from Xinjiang taken by Chinese themselves and the content appears alarming. It's a misunderstanding?

AsceticBear 5y ago
I am not in Xinjiang, but I have some friends studying in Xinjiang. I remember that some bloggers went to Xinjiang to shoot videos on youtube, which are more authentic. The security maintenance in the area may be stricter, but there is no such thing as forced labor.
- philliphaydon 5y ago
  You mean the YouTubers who were shuffled around together to specific areas, restaurants, etc and who all show the exact same things? They are not authentic.
  - AsceticBear 5y ago
    Then the best way I can think of is to let the local people in Xinjiang judge. Moreover, the Xinjiang issue is really sensitive, and I hope everyone will not fan the flames. Another question, I don't quite understand why Western countries always like to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries. Because they are developing better, they should go to other countries to play the role of savior?
    - philliphaydon 5y ago
      If people were allowed to go to Xinjiang without having people block them, follow them, take their cameras and memory cards, threaten them, etc. and freely allowed to move around and interview people etc and take photos and ask questions. Then one of 2 things would happen. Either it proves all the information and eye witness reports we currently have. Or it shows everything in Xinjiang is fine. But the fact no one is allowed to freely investigate Xinjiang only enforces that someone is going on and the CCP is trying to hide it.
    - randomhodler84 5y ago
      They will never be allowed to speak the truth. Why is it so sensitive… because genocide is bad for business (if the world finds out). The world wants to interfere because genocide is a crime against humanity. Every rape, every murder, every torture. It is unacceptable, and so is denying it.
    - CogitoCogito 5y ago
      > Another question, I don't quite understand why Western countries always like to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries. China does this constantly and they do it quite openly.
    - pertymcpert 5y ago
      > Moreover, the Xinjiang issue is really sensitive, Can you not see the issue with what you wrote? It's like you've almost made the mental connection, but you're not self aware enough to realize the last part.
    - honkdaddy 5y ago
      _Every_ time I try to have a conversation with a Chinese person about Xinjiang, they talk themselves into a corner and then lamely point at “the West” and all its apparent sins and meddling, as if there’s somehow any equivalence. There is a literal genocide happening in your country and you are complicit. Shame, shame, shame on you.
- randomhodler84 5y ago
  Everything you are being told is a lie. Nothing you read or hear is true. You cannot trust the local media.

jollybean 5y ago

There are many, and large, very well documented re-education camps where Uyghur people are placed for little or no reason beyond their ethnicity. Xianjing is an ultra police state, with some cities having police stations every few hundred meters, identity checks, absolute media controls, total propaganda. Don't even try cover it up, defend it, or try to make some kind of argument based in moral ambiguity i.e. 'racism in the US' which is not remotely reproaching the level of oppression.

mistrial9 5y ago

like this ? Buzzfeed News journalists Megha Rajagopalan, Alison Killing, and Christo Buschek Win the Pulitzer Prize for Exposing Work Camps https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/pulitzer-prize-buzzfeed-news-won-china-detention-camps https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/pulitzer-priz...