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Nuclear power's "biggest problem" has been solved for decades. You can put everything in giant metal canisters and sink it into bedrock. It's vastly more expens

by R0b0t1 5y ago

Nuclear power's "biggest problem" has been solved for decades. You can put everything in giant metal canisters and sink it into bedrock. It's vastly more expensive than doing nothing, but now that politicians are going to be held accountable for their fuckups they'll allocate the money. And even after all that it's still far less expensive than remediating coal output.

natmaka 5y ago
Each and every time someone claims that we can perfectly predict bedrock future for hundreds of thousands years to come I have to remind us that plate tectonics only was admitted by geophysicists during the 1960's. Hoping to know enough and for sure about all this is... a hope. Stating that we know what our descendants will need/do in a so distant future is even more funny.
- R0b0t1 5y ago
  That's why you put it in an inches thick metal case and drop it down low. What, you think they just didn't consider that?
  - natmaka 5y ago
    Such a major parameter wasn't considered 60 years ago... others ignored pertinent facts probably exists. My point was about what we (for the time being) ignore, albeit it is pertinent. They "considered" such facts using a somewhat light approach: 'Bob Loux, the executive director of the Nevada Agency for Nuclear Projects, expressed amazement that the US Department of Energy had only just carried out the "11th hour" drilling tests. "It certainly looks like DoE has encountered a surprise out there, and it certainly speaks to the fact they haven't done the technical work they should have done years ago," he told the paper. "It's going to have to cause some change of the design in the final analysis. It's going to impact the safety case."' Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/sep/25/usa https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/sep/25/usa Oops... They also "considered" those metal containers as adequate during the 1990's, then... (what, you think "they" are omniscient?)... problems related to brines and high temperature arose... https://www.nwtrb.gov/docs/default-source/board/mrs_duquette.pdf?sfvrsn=8 https://www.nwtrb.gov/docs/default-source/board/mrs_duquette... https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0335/ML033500420.pdf https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0335/ML033500420.pdf Oops...

by R0b0t1 5y ago

natmaka 5y ago

Each and every time someone claims that we can perfectly predict bedrock future for hundreds of thousands years to come I have to remind us that plate tectonics only was admitted by geophysicists during the 1960's. Hoping to know enough and for sure about all this is... a hope. Stating that we know what our descendants will need/do in a so distant future is even more funny.

R0b0t1 5y ago
That's why you put it in an inches thick metal case and drop it down low. What, you think they just didn't consider that?
- natmaka 5y ago
  Such a major parameter wasn't considered 60 years ago... others ignored pertinent facts probably exists. My point was about what we (for the time being) ignore, albeit it is pertinent. They "considered" such facts using a somewhat light approach: 'Bob Loux, the executive director of the Nevada Agency for Nuclear Projects, expressed amazement that the US Department of Energy had only just carried out the "11th hour" drilling tests. "It certainly looks like DoE has encountered a surprise out there, and it certainly speaks to the fact they haven't done the technical work they should have done years ago," he told the paper. "It's going to have to cause some change of the design in the final analysis. It's going to impact the safety case."' Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/sep/25/usa https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/sep/25/usa Oops... They also "considered" those metal containers as adequate during the 1990's, then... (what, you think "they" are omniscient?)... problems related to brines and high temperature arose... https://www.nwtrb.gov/docs/default-source/board/mrs_duquette.pdf?sfvrsn=8 https://www.nwtrb.gov/docs/default-source/board/mrs_duquette... https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0335/ML033500420.pdf https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0335/ML033500420.pdf Oops...