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Because we should be better. Like, you shouldn't interpret this as "whataboutism". It's just saying let's fix our own shit first. We have it bad. Probably one o

Because we should be better. Like, you shouldn't interpret this as "whataboutism". It's just saying let's fix our own shit first. We have it bad. Probably one of the worst in the world when looking at the "justice" system as a whole.

bratwurst3000 5y ago
- qeternity 5y ago
  If you're German, this is probably not a game you want to play.
  - emteycz 5y ago
    Germans got their shit together 50+ years ago...
    - kolanos 5y ago
      By "shit together" you mean dependent on Russia for energy? > Germany imports more than half of its energy . The country largely imports its oil from Russia, Norway and the United Kingdom. Germany is also the world's largest importer of natural gas. The largest gas imports come from the Netherlands, Norway, and Russia via the Nord Stream. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Germany
qeternity 5y ago
> It's just saying let's fix our own shit first. Please, what is the logic in this? Why on earth would anyone wait for the US to improve before demanding the same of others?
- aaomidi 5y ago
  Because the US is the dominant cultural machine in the world. And, that the American audience of HN should point this anger towards America so we can finally fix this.
  - qeternity 5y ago
    I don't disagree. But you didn't answer my question. Why wait for America to change before demanding better of everyone? We're all global citizens now. Act like it.
    - aaomidi 5y ago
      Because it doesn't work. I've lived in Iran. There is a heavy amount of "were as good as your beloved America" or "were not a bad as them". Also, people would care more if these things were reflected in our cultural exports of movies, internet, etc etc. So yes. You're right. We are global citizens. However some of us have a lot more power than others. Right now that's America and we need to use our power to send the right message to the world.

bratwurst3000 5y ago

qeternity 5y ago
If you're German, this is probably not a game you want to play.
- emteycz 5y ago
  Germans got their shit together 50+ years ago...
  - kolanos 5y ago
    By "shit together" you mean dependent on Russia for energy? > Germany imports more than half of its energy . The country largely imports its oil from Russia, Norway and the United Kingdom. Germany is also the world's largest importer of natural gas. The largest gas imports come from the Netherlands, Norway, and Russia via the Nord Stream. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Germany

qeternity 5y ago

> It's just saying let's fix our own shit first. Please, what is the logic in this? Why on earth would anyone wait for the US to improve before demanding the same of others?

aaomidi 5y ago
Because the US is the dominant cultural machine in the world. And, that the American audience of HN should point this anger towards America so we can finally fix this.
- qeternity 5y ago
  I don't disagree. But you didn't answer my question. Why wait for America to change before demanding better of everyone? We're all global citizens now. Act like it.
  - aaomidi 5y ago
    Because it doesn't work. I've lived in Iran. There is a heavy amount of "were as good as your beloved America" or "were not a bad as them". Also, people would care more if these things were reflected in our cultural exports of movies, internet, etc etc. So yes. You're right. We are global citizens. However some of us have a lot more power than others. Right now that's America and we need to use our power to send the right message to the world.