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> Food availability due to lower exports of wheat from russia and ukraine could cause an issue too. Why is this an issue for China anymore than the West? In f

> Food availability due to lower exports of wheat from russia and ukraine could cause an issue too. Why is this an issue for China anymore than the West? In fact, China has the majority of the world's grain stash. https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Datawatch/China-hoards-over-half-the-world-s-grain-pushing-up-global-prices https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Datawatch/China-hoards-ove...

detaro 5y ago
Where did the comment say that its more of a problem for China than the west?
- alephnan 5y ago
  "China's biggest problem is.... food availability due to lower exports of wheat from russia and ukraine could cause an issue too." The same logical structured can be applied to not China: "X country's biggest problem is ... food availability due to lower exports of wheat from russia and ukraine could cause an issue too."
  - detaro 5y ago
    Sure. Does every sentence in a discussion of X really require a disclaimer that the thing mentioned is not necessarily unique to X and can also be the case for not-X?
    - alephnan 5y ago
      Sure. Does saying "China has a border." add value then? It's not necessarily unique to China and can also be the case for not-China?
      - detaro 5y ago
        Depends if it's relevant to the topic at hand or not.
        alephnan 5y ago
        So you concede that it's about relevancy and not logical structure then.
        detaro 5y ago
        I've never claimed otherwise, since you didn't claim that it wasn't relevant to Chinese markets, but only attacked an imagined claim about it not being relevant to other markets.
mahkeiro 5y ago
Because China is not food independent. Most of western countries are.
- alephnan 5y ago
  Based on what ranking ? Calories/per resident? There's many ways in which that is flawed.
  - throwaway473825 5y ago
    Western countries have the best food security in the world: https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/Index https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-sec...
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spywaregorilla 5y ago
Chinese food security is generally lower than that of the west https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/Index https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-sec... The US ranks 9th whereas china ranks 34th. They're not going to famine or anything but food prices, or really just inflation more broadly, could be an issue. The reason china stockpiles grain is because it doesn't produce enough for itself.

detaro 5y ago

Where did the comment say that its more of a problem for China than the west?

alephnan 5y ago
"China's biggest problem is.... food availability due to lower exports of wheat from russia and ukraine could cause an issue too." The same logical structured can be applied to not China: "X country's biggest problem is ... food availability due to lower exports of wheat from russia and ukraine could cause an issue too."
- detaro 5y ago
  Sure. Does every sentence in a discussion of X really require a disclaimer that the thing mentioned is not necessarily unique to X and can also be the case for not-X?
  - alephnan 5y ago
    Sure. Does saying "China has a border." add value then? It's not necessarily unique to China and can also be the case for not-China?
    - detaro 5y ago
      Depends if it's relevant to the topic at hand or not.
      - alephnan 5y ago
        So you concede that it's about relevancy and not logical structure then.
        detaro 5y ago
        I've never claimed otherwise, since you didn't claim that it wasn't relevant to Chinese markets, but only attacked an imagined claim about it not being relevant to other markets.

mahkeiro 5y ago

Because China is not food independent. Most of western countries are.

alephnan 5y ago
Based on what ranking ? Calories/per resident? There's many ways in which that is flawed.
- throwaway473825 5y ago
  Western countries have the best food security in the world: https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/Index https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-sec...
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spywaregorilla 5y ago

Chinese food security is generally lower than that of the west https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-security-index/Index https://impact.economist.com/sustainability/project/food-sec... The US ranks 9th whereas china ranks 34th. They're not going to famine or anything but food prices, or really just inflation more broadly, could be an issue. The reason china stockpiles grain is because it doesn't produce enough for itself.