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> The West has tried working with Russia before the operation. What is your basis for this wild claim? Washington has actively opposed the implementation of th
by pphysch 5y ago
> The West has tried working with Russia before the operation.
What is your basis for this wild claim? Washington has actively opposed the implementation of the Minsk agreements since 2014, despite Moscow's enthusiasm for them.
- zozbot234 5y agoMoscow was far from enthusiastic about the Minsk agreements. Their position has always been that they were only acting as a "mediator" not as a party, thus - conveniently enough for them - they could not be blamed if the agreements broke down. More recently, they've stated outright that the Minsk agreements are dead.
- pphysch 5y ago
- zozbot234 5y ago> Notably, they include the main clauses of the Minsk agreements This does not seem accurate. For one thing, the Minsk agreements mention particular districts of Donetz and Luhansk in their text. The change from addressing particular districts to demanding the recognition of Donetz and Luhansk as a whole (if that's not what the Russians have asked for, they've certainly not made that clear) is very significant even on its own. For all we know, these demands might just be part of a bargaining game and not seriously insisted upon - but the change from Minsk II does matter.