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If you just look at excess deaths, thousands still seems correct. The Economist doesn't have recent numbers (I'm sure they are lower), but their last numbers sh

If you just look at excess deaths, thousands still seems correct. The Economist doesn't have recent numbers (I'm sure they are lower), but their last numbers showed ~16k excess deaths in a week. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-...

hackerfromthefu 5y ago
Recency of numbers is very important here. Due to the contagiousness of Omicron, new cases seems to have ramped up very quickly, and dissipated very quickly as well.
bequanna 5y ago
How many of these are due to suicide? Failing heath due to lack of socialization? Inability to get exercise? Poor diet? Depression? We’re now so far past thinking the cost of the pointless lockdowns was worth the benefit. Luckily, those who used COVID to seize power now have only a few easily influenced and perpetually fearful people still willing to cede control of their lives.
- meowfly 5y ago
  I'm extremely critical of how governments have handled the pandemic, but I don't think underplaying the deadliness of Covid is the best position to make that case. Utah barely locked down, has their kids in school, no mask requirements but has also one of the lowest death rates in the country. A lot of southern states had the same policy, but have some of the highest death rates in the country. [1] Utah is also one of the youngest and fittest states in the country while Mississippi (#1 for deaths per capita) is consistently ranked one of the most obese[2]. As far as I'm concerned, Covid should be encouraging the US to talk about their longest lasting health crisis - an obesity epidemic, but for some reason that hasn't materialized. 1. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covi... 2. https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html
- DanBC 5y ago
  In the US suicide dropped by 3% over the pandemic. https://twitter.com/CDCInjury/status/1498357668125323265?s=20&t=c5Umif0TPIEYg_ZAg6pqrg https://twitter.com/CDCInjury/status/1498357668125323265?s=2... It's still early days, and there may well be a rise in deaths by suicide as we gradually come out of pandemic. We always need to be watchful. But all the people who claim that suicide increased during pandemic are simply wrong.

hackerfromthefu 5y ago

Recency of numbers is very important here. Due to the contagiousness of Omicron, new cases seems to have ramped up very quickly, and dissipated very quickly as well.

bequanna 5y ago

How many of these are due to suicide? Failing heath due to lack of socialization? Inability to get exercise? Poor diet? Depression? We’re now so far past thinking the cost of the pointless lockdowns was worth the benefit. Luckily, those who used COVID to seize power now have only a few easily influenced and perpetually fearful people still willing to cede control of their lives.

meowfly 5y ago
I'm extremely critical of how governments have handled the pandemic, but I don't think underplaying the deadliness of Covid is the best position to make that case. Utah barely locked down, has their kids in school, no mask requirements but has also one of the lowest death rates in the country. A lot of southern states had the same policy, but have some of the highest death rates in the country. [1] Utah is also one of the youngest and fittest states in the country while Mississippi (#1 for deaths per capita) is consistently ranked one of the most obese[2]. As far as I'm concerned, Covid should be encouraging the US to talk about their longest lasting health crisis - an obesity epidemic, but for some reason that hasn't materialized. 1. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covi... 2. https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html
DanBC 5y ago
In the US suicide dropped by 3% over the pandemic. https://twitter.com/CDCInjury/status/1498357668125323265?s=20&t=c5Umif0TPIEYg_ZAg6pqrg https://twitter.com/CDCInjury/status/1498357668125323265?s=2... It's still early days, and there may well be a rise in deaths by suicide as we gradually come out of pandemic. We always need to be watchful. But all the people who claim that suicide increased during pandemic are simply wrong.