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1. Why is Russia afraid of a defensive alliance with no compulsion to join (unlike the hilariously named Warsaw Pact)? The most enthusiastic members of the alli

1. Why is Russia afraid of a defensive alliance with no compulsion to join (unlike the hilariously named Warsaw Pact)? The most enthusiastic members of the alliance are the closest to them... I wonder why... 2. NATO doesn't have hypersonic missiles. Russia has hypersonic missiles. 3. Why does Russia get to bolster their security by ravaging their democratic neighbours? Seems like zero-sum type behaviour. Maybe Russia should try making friends and stop using violence and threats. [edit] Here I thought the invasion happened because Ukraine was a neo-Nazi state, in spite of their president being Jewish and having defeated his rival who was the incumbent in the last election. I also thought that it was because Ukraine isn't a real country, and Russia should have the same borders as it had in 1916 (which would include Poland and Lithuania). Hmmm. Seems the war was intended to wipe Ukraine (a democratic country) off the map and restore the Russian empire. You seem like an apologist for imperialism. And people are dying for no reason because of Putin and his war of conquest.

pphysch 5y ago
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ailef 5y ago
To define NATO as a defensive alliance you need to stretch the definition of the word defensive so much that probably Putin invasion of Ukraine could be considered defensive as well. > 2. NATO doesn't have hypersonic missiles. Russia has hypersonic missiles. I don't know much about this one but wouldn't any NATO member having hypersonic missiles mean that NATO has them?
- wolverine876 5y ago
  Who did NATO attack and when?
  - ailef 5y ago
    You can find this information with a 2 minute Google search.
cute_boi 5y ago
1. If we look at history NATO, it is not a defensive alliance. It is a mostly defensive alliance. Many people here don't even know how the NATO was formed and the promises given to Russia? Russia thinks NATO has expanded beyond control. They don't want to be fully covered by it? Also, there are other strategic interests like Crimea, etc... 2. With this logic NATO doesn't have anything. The power of NATO comes from its member. And, it is a conglomerate of powerful nations? 3. Because it considers itself as a bear. Why does the US invade other countries in name of democracy and freedom? It is all strategic interest. Why does China care about the small island? Why does China get anxious when the US tries to shrug off its hegemony by making new nato like groups, supply arms, and ammunition. Geopolitics is a very complex topic. Again, I am not trying to justify any war crimes. I am just giving my opinion. I hope peace will prevail soon.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > Why does the US invade other countries in name of democracy and freedom? It doesn't. It invades countries for other purposes (that is, both the overt and any covert purposes of the invasions are not “democracy and freedom” except occasionally in the sense of addressing a foreign threat to American democracy and freedom or that of an American ally threatened by the country invaded), but sometimes does something notionally aimed at democracy and/or freedom for the people once there, which may notionally be either justified as a moral act given that some governance must be established or as an instrumental means of achieving the invasions overt purpose (often it's sold both ways.)
- wolverine876 5y ago
  Russia could sign a massive peace and disarmarment treaty with NATO today, and the European countries would be very happy to reduce their defense budgets and buy oil and gas from Russia. China could do something similar. Nobody has any interest in invading China or Russia. They don't because they have ambitions for power. > If we look at history NATO, it is not a defensive alliance. It is a mostly defensive alliance. When has it attacked anyone? > Why does China get anxious when the US tries to shrug off its hegemony by making new nato like groups, supply arms, and ammunition. Those countries join willingly, and in fact there is a line to get in the door (e.g., in NATO, Georgia and Ukraine). That's different than hegemony.

pphysch 5y ago

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ailef 5y ago

To define NATO as a defensive alliance you need to stretch the definition of the word defensive so much that probably Putin invasion of Ukraine could be considered defensive as well. > 2. NATO doesn't have hypersonic missiles. Russia has hypersonic missiles. I don't know much about this one but wouldn't any NATO member having hypersonic missiles mean that NATO has them?

wolverine876 5y ago
Who did NATO attack and when?
- ailef 5y ago
  You can find this information with a 2 minute Google search.

cute_boi 5y ago

1. If we look at history NATO, it is not a defensive alliance. It is a mostly defensive alliance. Many people here don't even know how the NATO was formed and the promises given to Russia? Russia thinks NATO has expanded beyond control. They don't want to be fully covered by it? Also, there are other strategic interests like Crimea, etc... 2. With this logic NATO doesn't have anything. The power of NATO comes from its member. And, it is a conglomerate of powerful nations? 3. Because it considers itself as a bear. Why does the US invade other countries in name of democracy and freedom? It is all strategic interest. Why does China care about the small island? Why does China get anxious when the US tries to shrug off its hegemony by making new nato like groups, supply arms, and ammunition. Geopolitics is a very complex topic. Again, I am not trying to justify any war crimes. I am just giving my opinion. I hope peace will prevail soon.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> Why does the US invade other countries in name of democracy and freedom? It doesn't. It invades countries for other purposes (that is, both the overt and any covert purposes of the invasions are not “democracy and freedom” except occasionally in the sense of addressing a foreign threat to American democracy and freedom or that of an American ally threatened by the country invaded), but sometimes does something notionally aimed at democracy and/or freedom for the people once there, which may notionally be either justified as a moral act given that some governance must be established or as an instrumental means of achieving the invasions overt purpose (often it's sold both ways.)
wolverine876 5y ago
Russia could sign a massive peace and disarmarment treaty with NATO today, and the European countries would be very happy to reduce their defense budgets and buy oil and gas from Russia. China could do something similar. Nobody has any interest in invading China or Russia. They don't because they have ambitions for power. > If we look at history NATO, it is not a defensive alliance. It is a mostly defensive alliance. When has it attacked anyone? > Why does China get anxious when the US tries to shrug off its hegemony by making new nato like groups, supply arms, and ammunition. Those countries join willingly, and in fact there is a line to get in the door (e.g., in NATO, Georgia and Ukraine). That's different than hegemony.