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the politics of this is very sad. there isn't a single country on earth whose politics are "correct". but cooperation is always, always better than division. tu

by modzu 5y ago

the politics of this is very sad. there isn't a single country on earth whose politics are "correct". but cooperation is always, always better than division. turning off instruments because they were made in another country? its insane. what does that accomplish? science, and in particular all the sciences related to space, must transcend that. i mean, these countries blowing each other up, they sell each other the weapons.. but we cant share a telescope? :(

gameswithgo 5y ago
It isn't a question of political nuance, Russia is murdering an entire nation. With no cooperative option currently existing to end it. I am heartened that the world is resisting on as many non violent fronts as possible.
- whatshisface 5y ago
  >It isn't a question of political nuance, Here is what the crew of the international space station was doing one day after US ground forces entered Iraq: https://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/news/station/2003/iss03-12.html https://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/news/station/2003/iss03...
bitcharmer 5y ago
Opinions like yours always baffled me. You probably think that taking away McDonald's from an average Russian is somehow unfair and accomplishes nothing, right? The whole point of this huge exercise in global isolation of an aggressor country is to change that whole country's behaviour and deter others from doing the same. And before you say it's Putin - no, it's not. It's him and the millions who wholeheartedly support him. Since we can't invade Russia to stop the aggression this is the next best thing we got. I can't put it in words any simpler than this.
- modzu 5y ago
  youre an american, right? so i get that working for foreign "regime change" is normalized to you.
  - bitcharmer 5y ago
    You couldn't be more wrong. Have a look at my sibling comment
- nevermindiguess 5y ago
  - bitcharmer 5y ago
    I love how both comments make hilariously wrong assumptions about my nationality. What people like you are saying and suggesting is deeply insulting to my ancestors and historical objectivity. I'm Polish. When I was growing up (in communist Poland) I spent a lot of time around the elderly who experienced the worst from the Soviets and got plenty of first-hand accounts of how uncivilised that nation is. Have you heard of Katyn, where they murdered our whole intelligentsia and the majority of Polish military officers? Have you been told about how Soviet soldiers took pleasure in raping the mother before the fathers eyes and their 8 children? Looting and burning the whole farm just for fun, maybe? Did you know about that? Putting whole families on cargo trains to be taken deep into Siberia to be starved and worked to death? This was not done by a single man. This happened because Russian nation historically never had problems with aggression and violence towards their neighbours. You can blame it on tyrannical systems of government but at its core its the people. Tell me you can easily imagine that in this day and age the French or the Brits become a totalitarian country and start invading their neighbours. We both know this is impossible because of those nations' deeply held values. Russian mentality is very different from the rest of the Europe and you may not like it but that's the reason why they have always been a bad neighbour. Some source material for you so you know what we're talking about here. Be warned these are disturbing videos https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t3hukp/phone_camer https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t3hukp/phone_camer... And the aftermath: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t2ihg8/russian_inv https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t2ihg8/russian_inv... A few more so you maybe people like you can wake up... https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t1yuau/eyewitnesses_report_near_kherson_russian_soldier/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t1yuau/eyewi... https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t9fmf7/russian_fascists_shoot_civilians_they_say_they/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t9fmf7/russ... https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t14gi4/russian_tank_ran_over_a_car_in_ukraine/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t14gi4/russ... https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t0kzln/russian_tanks_drives_over_a_civilian_trying_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t0kzln/russ... https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/taf8t1/russian_soldiers_in_ukraine_call_their_close_ones/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/taf8t1/russian_sol...

by modzu 5y ago

gameswithgo 5y ago

It isn't a question of political nuance, Russia is murdering an entire nation. With no cooperative option currently existing to end it. I am heartened that the world is resisting on as many non violent fronts as possible.

whatshisface 5y ago
>It isn't a question of political nuance, Here is what the crew of the international space station was doing one day after US ground forces entered Iraq: https://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/news/station/2003/iss03-12.html https://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/news/station/2003/iss03...

bitcharmer 5y ago

Opinions like yours always baffled me. You probably think that taking away McDonald's from an average Russian is somehow unfair and accomplishes nothing, right? The whole point of this huge exercise in global isolation of an aggressor country is to change that whole country's behaviour and deter others from doing the same. And before you say it's Putin - no, it's not. It's him and the millions who wholeheartedly support him. Since we can't invade Russia to stop the aggression this is the next best thing we got. I can't put it in words any simpler than this.

modzu 5y ago
youre an american, right? so i get that working for foreign "regime change" is normalized to you.
- bitcharmer 5y ago
  You couldn't be more wrong. Have a look at my sibling comment
nevermindiguess 5y ago
- bitcharmer 5y ago
  I love how both comments make hilariously wrong assumptions about my nationality. What people like you are saying and suggesting is deeply insulting to my ancestors and historical objectivity. I'm Polish. When I was growing up (in communist Poland) I spent a lot of time around the elderly who experienced the worst from the Soviets and got plenty of first-hand accounts of how uncivilised that nation is. Have you heard of Katyn, where they murdered our whole intelligentsia and the majority of Polish military officers? Have you been told about how Soviet soldiers took pleasure in raping the mother before the fathers eyes and their 8 children? Looting and burning the whole farm just for fun, maybe? Did you know about that? Putting whole families on cargo trains to be taken deep into Siberia to be starved and worked to death? This was not done by a single man. This happened because Russian nation historically never had problems with aggression and violence towards their neighbours. You can blame it on tyrannical systems of government but at its core its the people. Tell me you can easily imagine that in this day and age the French or the Brits become a totalitarian country and start invading their neighbours. We both know this is impossible because of those nations' deeply held values. Russian mentality is very different from the rest of the Europe and you may not like it but that's the reason why they have always been a bad neighbour. Some source material for you so you know what we're talking about here. Be warned these are disturbing videos https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t3hukp/phone_camer https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t3hukp/phone_camer... And the aftermath: https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t2ihg8/russian_inv https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/t2ihg8/russian_inv... A few more so you maybe people like you can wake up... https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t1yuau/eyewitnesses_report_near_kherson_russian_soldier/ https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/t1yuau/eyewi... https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t9fmf7/russian_fascists_shoot_civilians_they_say_they/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t9fmf7/russ... https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t14gi4/russian_tank_ran_over_a_car_in_ukraine/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t14gi4/russ... https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t0kzln/russian_tanks_drives_over_a_civilian_trying_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/t0kzln/russ... https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/taf8t1/russian_soldiers_in_ukraine_call_their_close_ones/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/taf8t1/russian_sol...