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> the rest of the world has moved on. (Looking at thousands of deaths per day in the US alone) `This is fine.jpg`

bequanna 5y ago
Why are people still saying this? This statistic has been unmasked to be quite useless and only used for fear mongering so politicians/bureaucrats can cling to their emergency powers. These “Thousands of deaths” are where the deceased happened to also test positive for COVID. Most of the deaths were people who were already very sick and likely not caused by COVID.
- v-yadli 5y ago
  Maybe it's fine for you guys that the a part of the population get eliminated because they are not strong enough against a disaster and "they are going to die anyway"... But no, thank you. That's not the place/mindset I'd like to live in. Good luck, and stay safe. ---------------------------- Edit. Just think of it. Say Bob is a programmer so addicted to coding. He code and code, day and night, ignored necessary exercises, skipping meals, drinking too much soda. And then omicron hit and he didn't make it. "He deserves it" you say? Why should not him get another chance to pull out of the rushing sessions and get better at taking care of himself?
  - the_doctah 5y ago
    Here's the alternative: - Forced vaccinations/vax passes - Children vaccinated - Boosters forever - Mask mandates forever - Social distancing forever That's not a place/mindset I'd like to live in.
    - celticninja 5y ago
      Vaccinations don't have to be forced. I wasn't forced to get mine, I got it because I'm not an idiot. Children are vaccinated all over the world every day for multiple different diseases. Are boosters required for ever? What's your research on this? Where did you get your time machine? Again the use of forever, masks and social distancing become nice to have options for people but after vaccination these are guidelines rather than mandates.
- slabity 5y ago
  > Why are people still saying this? This statistic has been unmasked to be quite useless and only used for fear mongering so politicians/bureaucrats can cling to their emergency powers. Can you post the source you used for this?
- monetus 5y ago
  Dropping in my area, but still plenty of deaths attributed to it. Citation needed. Regardless of the deaths, there are more disabling side effects than you can shake a stick at.
- meowfly 5y ago
  If you just look at excess deaths, thousands still seems correct. The Economist doesn't have recent numbers (I'm sure they are lower), but their last numbers showed ~16k excess deaths in a week. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-...
  - hackerfromthefu 5y ago
    Recency of numbers is very important here. Due to the contagiousness of Omicron, new cases seems to have ramped up very quickly, and dissipated very quickly as well.
  - bequanna 5y ago
    How many of these are due to suicide? Failing heath due to lack of socialization? Inability to get exercise? Poor diet? Depression? We’re now so far past thinking the cost of the pointless lockdowns was worth the benefit. Luckily, those who used COVID to seize power now have only a few easily influenced and perpetually fearful people still willing to cede control of their lives.
    - meowfly 5y ago
      I'm extremely critical of how governments have handled the pandemic, but I don't think underplaying the deadliness of Covid is the best position to make that case. Utah barely locked down, has their kids in school, no mask requirements but has also one of the lowest death rates in the country. A lot of southern states had the same policy, but have some of the highest death rates in the country. [1] Utah is also one of the youngest and fittest states in the country while Mississippi (#1 for deaths per capita) is consistently ranked one of the most obese[2]. As far as I'm concerned, Covid should be encouraging the US to talk about their longest lasting health crisis - an obesity epidemic, but for some reason that hasn't materialized. 1. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covi... 2. https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html
    - 5y ago

Why are people still saying this? This statistic has been unmasked to be quite useless and only used for fear mongering so politicians/bureaucrats can cling to their emergency powers. These “Thousands of deaths” are where the deceased happened to also test positive for COVID. Most of the deaths were people who were already very sick and likely not caused by COVID.

v-yadli 5y ago
Maybe it's fine for you guys that the a part of the population get eliminated because they are not strong enough against a disaster and "they are going to die anyway"... But no, thank you. That's not the place/mindset I'd like to live in. Good luck, and stay safe. ---------------------------- Edit. Just think of it. Say Bob is a programmer so addicted to coding. He code and code, day and night, ignored necessary exercises, skipping meals, drinking too much soda. And then omicron hit and he didn't make it. "He deserves it" you say? Why should not him get another chance to pull out of the rushing sessions and get better at taking care of himself?
- the_doctah 5y ago
  Here's the alternative: - Forced vaccinations/vax passes - Children vaccinated - Boosters forever - Mask mandates forever - Social distancing forever That's not a place/mindset I'd like to live in.
  - celticninja 5y ago
    Vaccinations don't have to be forced. I wasn't forced to get mine, I got it because I'm not an idiot. Children are vaccinated all over the world every day for multiple different diseases. Are boosters required for ever? What's your research on this? Where did you get your time machine? Again the use of forever, masks and social distancing become nice to have options for people but after vaccination these are guidelines rather than mandates.
slabity 5y ago
> Why are people still saying this? This statistic has been unmasked to be quite useless and only used for fear mongering so politicians/bureaucrats can cling to their emergency powers. Can you post the source you used for this?
monetus 5y ago
Dropping in my area, but still plenty of deaths attributed to it. Citation needed. Regardless of the deaths, there are more disabling side effects than you can shake a stick at.
meowfly 5y ago
If you just look at excess deaths, thousands still seems correct. The Economist doesn't have recent numbers (I'm sure they are lower), but their last numbers showed ~16k excess deaths in a week. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-deaths-tracker https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/coronavirus-excess-...
- hackerfromthefu 5y ago
  Recency of numbers is very important here. Due to the contagiousness of Omicron, new cases seems to have ramped up very quickly, and dissipated very quickly as well.
- bequanna 5y ago
  How many of these are due to suicide? Failing heath due to lack of socialization? Inability to get exercise? Poor diet? Depression? We’re now so far past thinking the cost of the pointless lockdowns was worth the benefit. Luckily, those who used COVID to seize power now have only a few easily influenced and perpetually fearful people still willing to cede control of their lives.
  - meowfly 5y ago
    I'm extremely critical of how governments have handled the pandemic, but I don't think underplaying the deadliness of Covid is the best position to make that case. Utah barely locked down, has their kids in school, no mask requirements but has also one of the lowest death rates in the country. A lot of southern states had the same policy, but have some of the highest death rates in the country. [1] Utah is also one of the youngest and fittest states in the country while Mississippi (#1 for deaths per capita) is consistently ranked one of the most obese[2]. As far as I'm concerned, Covid should be encouraging the US to talk about their longest lasting health crisis - an obesity epidemic, but for some reason that hasn't materialized. 1. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covi... 2. https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/prevalence-maps.html
  - 5y ago