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They are trying to be authentic. That is what actors are taught these days, to portray "realistic" characters that move and sound as realworld people. The net
by sandworm101 5y ago
They are trying to be authentic. That is what actors are taught these days, to portray "realistic" characters that move and sound as realworld people. The net result is mumbling and tiny little movements that in turn mandate tight closeups and asmr-like microphone placement. Try that on a stage or in any live performance and you will be called wooden. Compare actors like Samuel L Jackson, Percival Ulysses, Jane Lynch or Rowand Atkinson. They dont need closeups and microphones secreted in hairlines. But they also rarely get leading drama roles, more often appearing as side characters who run on stage to tell the team the dramatic news.
- gcthomas 5y agoOne big problem is that US actors have a history of recording adverts, so they are not classically trained, unlike a lot of British actors who have backgrounds on the stage and so have learned to speak clearly. I hate having to watch movies and TV with the subtitles on — the mumbling may be realistic, but I'm paying for escapism.
- sandworm101 5y agoYou probably hate clips like this. Male characters are dramatic, with big movements and loud voices to portray fear and disorder. The three female characters, including a very tough marine, are quiet and docile to engender escapist feelings of worry and protection. So which volume setting do you use? The camera is forced into an awkward zoom to reconcile the two. https://youtu.be/VrVZHxH2O1I https://youtu.be/VrVZHxH2O1I "They mostly come at night. Mostly."
- RobertMiller 5y agoI'd say the editors did a good job in this case, considering both "they mostly come at night, mostly." and "game over man, game over!" have both become iconic often-quoted lines.
- sandworm101 5y agoGood memes rarely come from good writing.
- RobertMiller 5y ago"If I took off the mask, would you die?" "It would be extremely painful" "You're a big guy!" "For you." hmm, you're probably right.
- wolverine876 5y agoThat is the incredible acting, not the lines IMHO. Imagine Bane played by an average actor - what a corny, laughable display it might have been.
- watwut 5y agoI like it better this way. Theatre like playing in movie come across as fake to me - as bad acting. When the whole thing is clearly exaggerate comedy, then it don't bother me. But, if I am supposed to immerse myself in the story, it does not work.
- Retric 5y agoReal people aren’t quiet around intense emotions and loud noises. This often comes off really silly, when actual people would be yelling they come off as mumbling to themselves. Instead, actors are often chatting in front of green screens without any of the appropriate ambient sounds or emotional context.
- watwut 5y agoReal people are often quiet around those. That is as normal reaction as loud yelling.
- Retric 5y agoIt’s so subconscious for people to speak lauder in a noisy environment that you might not realize it, but it’s so necessary we have started to program devices to do the same thing: https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/31/22651304/amazon-alexa-adaptive-volume-noisy-loud-environments https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/31/22651304/amazon-alexa-ada... I am not saying intense emotions universally result in yelling, but people very rarely whisper when say calling 9/11. Even just kids playing tag get lauder.
- watwut 5y agoPeople normally get mute in stressful situation. They normally have troubles to express things, they talk in weak voice, whisper or not at all. They have one word answers to complex questions. And anything in between. Some dissociate and act normal or follow normal script by routine. They don't whisper to the phone, they will put more conscious effort to talk into 911 call ... or the shaken mute person won't be the one making call. You seriously never had to ask people to talk louder in noise environment? The "people yell" assumption is artifact of movies, not reality.
- ElephantsMyAnus 5y agoI'm not a native speaker, but, I think it's rather the opposite. It's very inauthentic. English is a rather unusual language that the meaning is mostly carried only by consonants, while vowels are almost meaningless. What actors seem to be doing is that they focus too much on their accent, and the vowels that define it, and mostly ignore the consonants. Which means you can only hear the accents, but not what is being said.
- School-Cotton 5y ago> English is a rather unusual language that the meaning is mostly carried only by consonants, while vowels are almost meaningless. Sorry but this sounds like nonsense. Vowel distinctions absolutely matter in English. Think of how many words would be indistinguishable otherwise: bout, bought, bet, bat, bit, beet, boot, boat, bite, but, and bait are all distinguished from each other only by a vowel. (And, yes, these all sound quite different to me, an American, though non-native speakers often have trouble making or recognizing some of the distinctions. Some native speakers further distinguish “bot” from “bought”, but I don’t.)
- ElephantsMyAnus 5y agoI get that, but it matters very little in a typical sentence. I bet you could understand almost everything with all vowels replaced with schwas.
- inetknght 5y ago> I bet you could understand almost everything with all vowels replaced with schwas. No. Have you tried understanding someone who can only pronounce consonants but also whose dialect is foreign? It's unintelligible. Vowels absolutely serve a purpose. You're just used to hearing your own words spoken back to you in the same way you've always expected them.
- ElephantsMyAnus 5y agoDifferent accents use different vowels, but they remain comprehensible. It's specifically those accents that also change consonants that are taken as hard to understand, such as Scouse.