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TP Link is a Chinese company. I won't trust them personally. In China's current political status, it is impossible for Chinese companies to reject the autocrat
by maxloh 5y ago
TP Link is a Chinese company. I won't trust them personally.
In China's current political status, it is impossible for Chinese companies to reject the autocratic government's requests for surveillance. You may endup in jail or even get killed.
- ttybird2 5y agohttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa...
- naoqj 5y agoI mean, I get it, but Avira is a German company.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoAvira’s bosses get their marching orders from NortonLifelock bosses, which seems to have pretty American leadership: https://www.nortonlifelock.com/us/en/corporate-profile/management-team/board-of-directors/ https://www.nortonlifelock.com/us/en/corporate-profile/manag...
- Lifelarper 5y agoSo hypothetically as a western activist at risk of govt coercion you'd trust Cisco more? Statistically, you very likely own a Chinese manufactured router while using it to tell others here not to do the same.
- irutirw222 5y agoThis is a good point. Probably most people are not aware of the country of origin of most of the tech products (resp forna given product, how many important, modular subparts come from Chinese companies). It would be highly interesting if there would be a website where you could type in the name of a product (e.g. sime Cisco) router and it would give you a detailed decomposition of where and by whom is parts where made. Something like (highly simplified) : - CPU design: Company X - CPU manufacturing: Company - RAM design and manufacturing: Company Z - Overall remaining logic: Cisco
- x13 5y agoMany US companies publish lists of suppliers. These examples do not show individual components, but may shine some light on things: https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-Supplier-List.pdf https://www.apple.com/supplier-responsibility/pdf/Apple-Supp... https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en_us/about/supply-chain/cisco-supplier-list.pdf https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en_us/about/supply-chain/cisco-s...
- rlpb 5y agoThis is true of the US too: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Court https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intell...
- irutirw222 5y agoOnly partially: Rejecting the request won't get you killed. You also have the option to close your company to avoid jail, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit as a good case study. Thus, I would prefer the US to China in this regard.
- bannedbybros 5y ago
- rlpb 5y agoAs a purchaser of equipment, the risk is basically the same though. It's just about which government you want to trust with your data.