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Awesome! Do you know more Web Views in use?

woodruffw 5y ago
Don't quote me on this, but I believe that Apple Music (nee iTunes) has used web views for a long time; probably over a decade. The entire thing probably isn't a web view, but my recollection is that the store components were.
- efortis 5y ago
  Library -> Albums has some onHover feedback, which I haven't seen anywhere else. I guess the Help documents are Web Views as well, e.g. right-click on an image.
- ksec 5y ago
  Yes, both iTunes and Apple Music. That is why they are slow, comparatively speaking. But they are finally rewriting Apple Music app to full native.
- lelandfe 5y ago
  Unsurprisingly the App Store is another example.
  - jeroenhd 5y ago
    I remember giving up on my Hackintosh install after the App Store started rendering without CSS, breaking update functionality. Always thought that to be a weird failure mode for a system application.
  - galad87 5y ago
    App Store was rewritten in 10.14 and it no longer uses a Web View for the main content, some Apple ID setting might still be Web Views.
- sitharus 5y ago
  Apple Music is now using a technology they developed to convert web views back to native - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30648424 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30648424 On macOS 12.2 Music consumes much less RAM, and no longer has a webview process.
  - comex 5y ago
    Wrong link?
  - cryoz 5y ago
    Still remains quite slow and unresponsive in comparison to Spotify.
  - woodruffw 5y ago
    I think your link is wrong; are you thinking of Catalyst[1]? I'm not an Apple insider, but Catalyst looks like the thing that was codenamed Marzipan for a while. I think it's more for converting iOS apps than web views. [1]: https://developer.apple.com/mac-catalyst/ https://developer.apple.com/mac-catalyst/
    - mrpippy 5y ago
      No, it’s something internal called JET https://9to5mac.com/2021/12/16/apple-is-rebuilding-apple-music-as-a-full-native-app-with-macos-12-2-beta/ https://9to5mac.com/2021/12/16/apple-is-rebuilding-apple-mus...
    - sitharus 5y ago
      Yes, I intended to link to the 9to5mac article, but it’s too late to edit
- varenc 5y ago
  This macOS dictionary app (Dictionary.app) also uses webviews. This will come as no surprise since it does things like in-line Wikipedia results.
galad87 5y ago
A lot of Apple apps used to use Web Views on macOS: Messages, Music, TV, App Store, for example. But they have been slowly phased out. Messages in Big Sur, App Store in Mojave, Music and TV in Monterey. Right now they are only a bunch of settings panels remaining.

Don't quote me on this, but I believe that Apple Music (nee iTunes) has used web views for a long time; probably over a decade. The entire thing probably isn't a web view, but my recollection is that the store components were.

efortis 5y ago
Library -> Albums has some onHover feedback, which I haven't seen anywhere else. I guess the Help documents are Web Views as well, e.g. right-click on an image.
ksec 5y ago
Yes, both iTunes and Apple Music. That is why they are slow, comparatively speaking. But they are finally rewriting Apple Music app to full native.
lelandfe 5y ago
Unsurprisingly the App Store is another example.
- jeroenhd 5y ago
  I remember giving up on my Hackintosh install after the App Store started rendering without CSS, breaking update functionality. Always thought that to be a weird failure mode for a system application.
- galad87 5y ago
  App Store was rewritten in 10.14 and it no longer uses a Web View for the main content, some Apple ID setting might still be Web Views.
sitharus 5y ago
Apple Music is now using a technology they developed to convert web views back to native - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30648424 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30648424 On macOS 12.2 Music consumes much less RAM, and no longer has a webview process.
- comex 5y ago
  Wrong link?
- cryoz 5y ago
  Still remains quite slow and unresponsive in comparison to Spotify.
- woodruffw 5y ago
  I think your link is wrong; are you thinking of Catalyst[1]? I'm not an Apple insider, but Catalyst looks like the thing that was codenamed Marzipan for a while. I think it's more for converting iOS apps than web views. [1]: https://developer.apple.com/mac-catalyst/ https://developer.apple.com/mac-catalyst/
  - mrpippy 5y ago
    No, it’s something internal called JET https://9to5mac.com/2021/12/16/apple-is-rebuilding-apple-music-as-a-full-native-app-with-macos-12-2-beta/ https://9to5mac.com/2021/12/16/apple-is-rebuilding-apple-mus...
  - sitharus 5y ago
    Yes, I intended to link to the 9to5mac article, but it’s too late to edit
varenc 5y ago
This macOS dictionary app (Dictionary.app) also uses webviews. This will come as no surprise since it does things like in-line Wikipedia results.

galad87 5y ago

A lot of Apple apps used to use Web Views on macOS: Messages, Music, TV, App Store, for example. But they have been slowly phased out. Messages in Big Sur, App Store in Mojave, Music and TV in Monterey. Right now they are only a bunch of settings panels remaining.