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It totally depends on the individual. I use my giant pick up truck every single day. I’ll also be the first to get a viable electric when there’s one available.

It totally depends on the individual. I use my giant pick up truck every single day. I’ll also be the first to get a viable electric when there’s one available. I get groceries in a Nissan Leaf. Cars and trucks aren’t the issue we should be arguing about. Nothing is being done about shipping, cruise lines, and big industry. It’s a classic tactic for corporations to focus the government on individuals instead of themselves. Here you are falling for it hook, line, and sinker.

Maursault 5y ago
I concede that personal vehicles aren't the bigger problem, and I agree that something should be done about shipping, cruise lines, cement, glass, coal power, etc., before we worry about the small fries. The situation is kind of ridiculous, as by now everyone knows what the problem is, and yet there is no control over our own interests to survive, and our elected government intervenes to allow a bunch of people that need jobs to work and a few to get rich off of something that is literally killing nearly everything slowly but no longer slowly enough.
willis936 5y ago
Companies aren't informing anecdotal observations. I would have no issue if pickup ownership was regulated.
- deelowe 5y ago
  I do because it's arbitrary and senseless. Gas mileage is already regulated. It's the main reason my giant truck is a turbo v6 instead of a v8.
eru 5y ago
> Nothing is being done about shipping, cruise lines, and big industry. Not sure what you mean, there's plenty of regulation on those. Eg most of the world has just recently gotten much stricter about what fuels you can burn in ocean going vessels. Though maybe not as much regulation as you want? Or the wrong kind? In any case, I mostly agree with you. And regulation shouldn't focus on micro-managing individual people or even individual industries: just tax emissions, and let people sort it out according to their own preferences.
- deelowe 5y ago
  Fair enough maybe not nothing, but very little. As someone who lives a rural lifestyle and uses my truck (along with literally everyone else I know), it's a bit infuriating that we get picked on for ruining the planet. Switching from a truck to a car isn't really going to do much to address global warming. I also wonder how many folks on this site realize just how good of gas mileage "giant" trucks actually get these days.
  - eru 5y ago
    That's why I'm in favour of something simple like a carbon tax to sort this out. No need for any politicized discussions about lifestyles that way. (If other countries don't follow suit with the carbon tax, just do adjustments at the border like what countries do for VAT. That'll automatically also do the right thing for the other countries that do also have a carbon tax.)

Maursault 5y ago

I concede that personal vehicles aren't the bigger problem, and I agree that something should be done about shipping, cruise lines, cement, glass, coal power, etc., before we worry about the small fries. The situation is kind of ridiculous, as by now everyone knows what the problem is, and yet there is no control over our own interests to survive, and our elected government intervenes to allow a bunch of people that need jobs to work and a few to get rich off of something that is literally killing nearly everything slowly but no longer slowly enough.

willis936 5y ago

Companies aren't informing anecdotal observations. I would have no issue if pickup ownership was regulated.

deelowe 5y ago
I do because it's arbitrary and senseless. Gas mileage is already regulated. It's the main reason my giant truck is a turbo v6 instead of a v8.

eru 5y ago

> Nothing is being done about shipping, cruise lines, and big industry. Not sure what you mean, there's plenty of regulation on those. Eg most of the world has just recently gotten much stricter about what fuels you can burn in ocean going vessels. Though maybe not as much regulation as you want? Or the wrong kind? In any case, I mostly agree with you. And regulation shouldn't focus on micro-managing individual people or even individual industries: just tax emissions, and let people sort it out according to their own preferences.

deelowe 5y ago
Fair enough maybe not nothing, but very little. As someone who lives a rural lifestyle and uses my truck (along with literally everyone else I know), it's a bit infuriating that we get picked on for ruining the planet. Switching from a truck to a car isn't really going to do much to address global warming. I also wonder how many folks on this site realize just how good of gas mileage "giant" trucks actually get these days.
- eru 5y ago
  That's why I'm in favour of something simple like a carbon tax to sort this out. No need for any politicized discussions about lifestyles that way. (If other countries don't follow suit with the carbon tax, just do adjustments at the border like what countries do for VAT. That'll automatically also do the right thing for the other countries that do also have a carbon tax.)