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Interestingly, when we live in a society where people disagree, this is exactly the way you can frame any policy you disagree with. Car owners have imposed the

Interestingly, when we live in a society where people disagree, this is exactly the way you can frame any policy you disagree with. Car owners have imposed their lifestyles on me my entire life. See? :)

refurb 5y ago
Who is forcing you to drive a car? Didn’t you just say you didn’t?
- em-bee 5y ago
  lack of public transportation, sidewalks and bikepaths, making cars the only option to get around.
  - refurb 5y ago
    Right, but not forced since OP literally said "Funny, living in cities that prioritize other modes of transport (biking, buses, trains, etc) has drastically improved my quality of life"
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    - em-bee 5y ago
      it's forced since i need to live where the jobs are, and kids who can't drive need to live where their parents are. we all need to be able live together, and just as a completely carless city is unrealistic, a car only city is no better, but the latter unfortunately is often the reality.
      - refurb 5y ago
        It’s certainly still an option. Just an option you’re not willing to trade off for. I live without a car. Public transit suffices, I walk my kid to school.
        em-bee 5y ago
        same here, but i have also lived in places where this wasn't an option.
- reanimus 5y ago
  Where did I say anyone was forcing me? I'm talking about the fact that most cities don't have car-less areas for pedestrians and bicyclists only, and that initiatives like the closure of JFK drive in SF to drivers being met with fierce resistance. Things like refusing to make protected bike lanes, refusing to build out adequate public transit, all in favor of... More highway lanes. More parking. But sure, don't engage with the argument at hand, I guess.
  - refurb 5y ago
    What argument? You don't like cars, others do. You do you, don't try and tell others their choices are wrong.

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Interestingly, when we live in a society where people disagree, this is exactly the way you can frame any policy you disagree with. Car owners have imposed the

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refurb 5y ago
Who is forcing you to drive a car? Didn’t you just say you didn’t?
- em-bee 5y ago
  lack of public transportation, sidewalks and bikepaths, making cars the only option to get around.
  - refurb 5y ago
    Right, but not forced since OP literally said "Funny, living in cities that prioritize other modes of transport (biking, buses, trains, etc) has drastically improved my quality of life"
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    - em-bee 5y ago
      it's forced since i need to live where the jobs are, and kids who can't drive need to live where their parents are. we all need to be able live together, and just as a completely carless city is unrealistic, a car only city is no better, but the latter unfortunately is often the reality.
      - refurb 5y ago
        It’s certainly still an option. Just an option you’re not willing to trade off for. I live without a car. Public transit suffices, I walk my kid to school.
        em-bee 5y ago
        same here, but i have also lived in places where this wasn't an option.
- reanimus 5y ago
  Where did I say anyone was forcing me? I'm talking about the fact that most cities don't have car-less areas for pedestrians and bicyclists only, and that initiatives like the closure of JFK drive in SF to drivers being met with fierce resistance. Things like refusing to make protected bike lanes, refusing to build out adequate public transit, all in favor of... More highway lanes. More parking. But sure, don't engage with the argument at hand, I guess.
  - refurb 5y ago
    What argument? You don't like cars, others do. You do you, don't try and tell others their choices are wrong.