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What a dick move and also looks like they are desperate for money. If there was hardware differences involved I could accept it but this is pure software. Also

What a dick move and also looks like they are desperate for money. If there was hardware differences involved I could accept it but this is pure software. Also isn't FSD available at a later time for a monthly fee? So they are so desperate for this upfront 12k their markup in the people who purchase it later isn't enough. Or they have such little confidence in FSD that people who get it at a later time will cancel the next month.

aeternum 5y ago
Do you also take issue with the higher-paying first-class and economy-plus airline passengers boarding first? It's logical for companies to prioritize higher paying customers.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  I do actually take issue with it, at least a little. The other day I boarded a plane and wondered why they wouldn't let the people in the back board first, since it would allow people to saturate the available seating and carry-on faster, while also preventing the priority customers from being rushed/crowded at the front of the plane. Furthermore, it gives higher-paying travellers a larger window to board, since they could arrive as late as they like without worrying about getting on at a bad time.
  - __s 5y ago
    Heads up: back-to-front isn't the optimal boarding strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAHbLRjF0vo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAHbLRjF0vo
- dzhiurgis 5y ago
  > airline passengers boarding first We get there in same time
powerbroker 5y ago
People in the Tesla community are now calling FSD Fairytale Self Driving -- mainly on account of it being promised to provide 'robotaxi' service since 2019. Clearly, the problem of characterizing the road environment, projecting future paths, and selecting a suitable path ahead is a much more difficult problem than initially thought.
- deleted 5y ago
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- misiti3780 5y ago
  FSD beta 10.10.2 is very impressive. Have you been in a car that has the beta software installed? They are getting pretty close to robotaxis 90% of environments. The software feels like it could be used as a robotaxi in rural environments right now.
  - supah 5y ago
    It’s good they are able to target those demographics a few years later then advertised that will have a large uptake in participation.
    - misiti3780 5y ago
      I dont get it, so the timeline was wrong. Are you a software developer. Have you never missed your estimates? Estimating software is very hard. Now imagine you're a publicly traded company, the whole world is watching you, and short sellers are piling on. You are trying to fix model 3 supply chain problems etc and at the same time designing rockets that land themselves. I think they deserve a pass on the estimates. Tesla will get to L4 first

aeternum 5y ago

Do you also take issue with the higher-paying first-class and economy-plus airline passengers boarding first? It's logical for companies to prioritize higher paying customers.

smoldesu 5y ago
I do actually take issue with it, at least a little. The other day I boarded a plane and wondered why they wouldn't let the people in the back board first, since it would allow people to saturate the available seating and carry-on faster, while also preventing the priority customers from being rushed/crowded at the front of the plane. Furthermore, it gives higher-paying travellers a larger window to board, since they could arrive as late as they like without worrying about getting on at a bad time.
- __s 5y ago
  Heads up: back-to-front isn't the optimal boarding strategy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAHbLRjF0vo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAHbLRjF0vo
dzhiurgis 5y ago
> airline passengers boarding first We get there in same time

powerbroker 5y ago

People in the Tesla community are now calling FSD Fairytale Self Driving -- mainly on account of it being promised to provide 'robotaxi' service since 2019. Clearly, the problem of characterizing the road environment, projecting future paths, and selecting a suitable path ahead is a much more difficult problem than initially thought.

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misiti3780 5y ago
FSD beta 10.10.2 is very impressive. Have you been in a car that has the beta software installed? They are getting pretty close to robotaxis 90% of environments. The software feels like it could be used as a robotaxi in rural environments right now.
- supah 5y ago
  It’s good they are able to target those demographics a few years later then advertised that will have a large uptake in participation.
  - misiti3780 5y ago
    I dont get it, so the timeline was wrong. Are you a software developer. Have you never missed your estimates? Estimating software is very hard. Now imagine you're a publicly traded company, the whole world is watching you, and short sellers are piling on. You are trying to fix model 3 supply chain problems etc and at the same time designing rockets that land themselves. I think they deserve a pass on the estimates. Tesla will get to L4 first